Necessary preflop implieds/Stack sizes for different hands?
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Necessary preflop implieds/Stack sizes for different hands?
Hey!
Im playing mostly live, with a lot of fishes - and I'm wondering about the necessary preflop stacksizes to call a Potsize preflop raise in this situation...
Reg opens 4bb, 2 flatters, Hero calls in the SB, BB pots it to 30 BB, SB folds, BB folds, Reg calls, 1 flat calls, 1 flat folds, Hero?
Hero has...
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The presumption is that the table will play honest postflop, besides maybe the reg.
Thanks for opinions shared! :)
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Instinctively I would like to be short stacked with those hands you threw out there, ideally with one pot sized bet on the flop that you could lead out with on any three cards on the flop. You'd probably take it down some percentage of the time, and the times you don't, you'd likely be facing just one opponent at showdown.
Deep, not sure. Folding a lot of those hands doesn't seem like a big mistake
Good question, although it's a difficult one to answer succinctly! The main thing I'd like to point out is that your hand choices are mostly very weak, which means you might be playing too loose in general...
These should be folded the first and second time around.
Fine call the 1st time but fold the 2nd at any stack depth (unless you have very weak opponents and are very deep). The QQ hands probably fall into this category as well.
Fold the first time, but closer the 2nd time at most stack depths.
Some of the others are iffy as well..
Given that these are pretty weak hands and you're in a multiway pot, you're looking to flop the very nutty elements of a lot of these: top set, nut flush, straight, etc.
Due to that, you'll want stacks to be fairly deep with the majority of them if you're going to call the 3bet. You've listed a lot of hands that are going to flop 1 pair or a 1-way draw and just need to x/f at many stack depths due to it being a multiway pot.
Thanks for your answers!
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Fold the first time, but closer the 2nd time at most stack depths."
What exactly do you mean by "the first time"? In terms of the first 4bb-raise?
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As7s7h6dFine call the 1st time but fold the 2nd at any stack depth (unless you have very weak opponents and are very deep). The QQ hands probably fall into this category as well."
What are in your opinion the necesarry stack sizes for a call?
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Do we have to fold to the first raise bc we are OOP? Would you call IP? I thought connectors with a middle gap and basically any hand 9+ is worth calling a single opener, especially in a very loose and fishy game
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I assume, call the first raise, fold to the 3bet as well?
What about short stack play here, like skychaser mentioned? With what of these hands could we call to shove the flop potsize?
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