Losing too much money in the blinds and on the button
Posted by Kostaka
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Kostaka
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Losing too much money in the blinds and on the button
Hello, I noticed a big leak in my PLO game. I'm a 0.02/0.05 player. I'm doing fine in EP, MP and CO but I'm just giving away free money on the button and on the blinds. I can't understand why, I hope that you can help me so I can fix my mistake and start winning from these positions. I have PT4 from soon so probably the sample size is pretty small but the leak in my game is from a lot of time. Thanks in advance!
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Sample size much too small. Get like a good 50k hands in.
But from what I see, tighten up significantly from EP and MP, CO looks good, BU is ok, can debatably open up a bit more.
Also your WTSD% is very high.
Losing money from sb and bb is normal although maybe you'd want to lose less than 50bb/100 from sb and 100bb/100 from bb.
Sample size is much too small to draw any conclusions.
Actually loosing less than -25bb/100 from sb and less than -37bb/100 from bb is considered good. Check out Leszek's new video
well, according to this I'm losing 100bb/100 from BB and 69bb/100 from SB.
How can I decrease my WTSD?
Shouldn't the button be my most profitable position. How can I make it the most profitable position?
The sample is way too small to know that. It would be a leak if about 60k total hands later that your BTN is not one of the most profitable positions. You have less than 2k hands recorded, which is like a day of 3 table zoom grind. You also seem way too loose in all of your positions. Considering rake, you should be at around 30% total. 61% from SB is wayyyyy too loose. Bring that down to about 30%. Also your EP open is way too high. It would be helpful if you post per street stats.
Sample too small to draw any conclusions, like its really not worth worrying about
How big is the samplesize? Anyway when looking at your sb winrate, its actually worse than if u folded EVERY small blind (-50bb/100) so something is not right. Also bb winrate is the same if u folded all hands from there (so AAJTds as well)
However, if you say the patterns are consistent with how you've been playing, its pretty clear I think you need to tighten up. Eg you have 61% VPIP from SB with 24% WTSD, I imagine you're flatting raises pre and the check folding a lot of flops. This adds up. From the small blind, you have to play in the worst position, playing a game where position is everything, and your discount on seeing the flop isn't spectatularly high, especially in 2/5 games where the small blind is less than half of a big blind, making calling more expensive. Definitely tighten up your range from this position. I also think 40% from EP and MP is way too high. Hard to go into much more detail from small sample, and literally everything I've said can also be attributed to small sample.
At the moment, you actually over half your losses from the small blind by folding 100% (as sb is not 1/2 bb), so if thats an indication :P If I had to recommend an adjustment to your play, start to play only premiums from the blinds and EP (not strategies I advise but atm its +EV for you relative to how its going atm) and as you adjust and adapt to playing OOP (I imagine this is a problem) you can start developing your own ranges
Thanks for the replies. I've actually changed my game and I became +EV on the BB and my loses in the SB are very low now. The problem is that the loses on the BTN became more than huge. I am losing arouns 400bb/100 on the BTN. I have tightened up a bit, what am I doing wrong? I think that the problem is not in my preflop game but in my postflop game. I am calling way too much with not so good hands - non-nut or even not second nut flushes, second nut straights, sets on wet board and even 2 pairs. I am a +EV NLHE player but I started to like Omaha more so I stopped playing Holdem except for MTTs. What shouls I do to become a +EV Omaha player?
Again, it would be helpful if you can post your street by street stats.
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