5PLO Looking for constructive feedback on this ~ 400 BB pot.
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5PLO Looking for constructive feedback on this ~ 400 BB pot.
BB: $4
UTG: $5
HJ: $3.85
CO: $22.04 (Hero)
BN: $19.14
SB: $12.53
UTG: $5
HJ: $3.85
CO: $22.04 (Hero)
BN: $19.14
SB: $12.53
BTN is a loose fishy player, often 3 betting and then flatting the 4 bets with hands on the more speculative side.
Comments welcome on all streets!
Comments welcome on all streets!
Preflop
($0.07)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
7
A
3
A
UTG folds, HJ folds, Hero raises to $0.17, BN raises to $0.58, SB calls $0.56, BB calls $0.53, Hero raises to $2.90, BN calls $2.32, SB folds, BB calls $2.32
UTG folds, HJ folds, Hero raises to $0.17, BN raises to $0.58, SB calls $0.56, BB calls $0.53, Hero raises to $2.90, BN calls $2.32, SB folds, BB calls $2.32
I think the 4bet here is pretty standard with my ok Singlesuited Aces, the BTN as i stated earlier was 3betting quite liberally. My intention with the 4bet was to lower the SPR and hope someone 5bets KKxx or some kind of broadway hand.
Take into consideration that we are almost 400 BB deep against BTN.
Take into consideration that we are almost 400 BB deep against BTN.
Flop
($9.45)
2
8
7
(3 Players)
BB checks,
Hero bets $5.20,
BN raises to $10.40,
BB calls $1.10, and is all in,
Hero raises to $19.14, and is all in,
BN calls $5.84, and is all in
On the flop versus BTN we have an effective SPR of 1.75.
My plan was to c-bet small to induce a raise, which i succeed on. Once he raises i think this is an easy ship. Even though he raises my c-bet, the sizing is so small i dont think he reps much on this board in a 4-bet pot.
My plan was to c-bet small to induce a raise, which i succeed on. Once he raises i think this is an easy ship. Even though he raises my c-bet, the sizing is so small i dont think he reps much on this board in a 4-bet pot.
Turn
($51.13)
2
8
7
2
(3 Players)
River
($51.13)
2
8
7
2
9
(3 Players)
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4bet pre is fine but i think its pretty optimistic that someone will 5bet KKxx or broadway cards. Even ppl at lower limits should realize that when you are 4 betting you will often have Aces.
OTF i think betting half pot is a mistake because it would be nice if everybody folds and you pick up the pot. Dont give someone with 9T the right prize to draw. He must be a huge fish to try ande bluff raise here because you are never ever folding after betting half pot. Just pot it and gii!
Imfish, are there any flops we x/f here? 789? TJQtt? monotone?
Interesting flop would be all spades or clubs!!! Happened a couple times to me in situations like that and not sure what to do there...
I'm not so sure about the 4-bet here. Phil Galfond said in one of his videos that he likes to 4-bet bad aces up to ~180bb deep as they don't flop well that often and play rather poorly vs a 3-bet. But he also mentioned you have to balance that with other hands in your range.
Now this obviously doesn't work here as the villian is not concerned with range. He will put you on AA every single time you 4-bet here no matter what your actual range looks like. And let's be honest - your AA are pretty disconnected and bad here despite the flush draw. We can't get enough money in to make this an automatic shove on the flop so I'm a little bit worried that we're allowing him to play perfectly on the flop by 4-betting. And if he doesn't make any mistakes you won't make any money. That said if he's bad enough to do this with bare KK and then stack off on low boards then by all means 4-bet.
As played just pot the flop. I assume you're never bet/folding here so just put maximum pressure on him and he might incorrectly fold some hands.
Yeah you don't want to bet / induce on this board. Maybe at these stakes it is not terrible, but better players will flat you ip and play their odds and position perfectly.
You need as much fold equity as possible in this spot. Hands as weak as pair with a gutter are slightly ahead of you, so fold equity is huge.
This is 5PLO..from my experience of this I would expect villain to have the other two Aces some silly %age of the time, and you'll chop more often than not.
Like everyone else I'm not sure about betting to induce - if you play then just ship it in and give him the chance to make a hero fold (as three pigs fly past my window) if he has AA. If he has a speculative hand then you probably have him smashed into bits and need to get as much in as possible..
Thanks for epic feedback guys! Already love this site :D In retroperspective i guess i should have flatted the 3bet pre, then proceed to c-bet then barrel down the streets?
I think if we had Premium doublesuited aces here this an easy 4 bet here, even easier in pos.
What would you guys do (preflop) in this situation with 789T or a higher connective hand like 9TJQ?
Just call even ds 789t or 9tqj cause it's 4way w/o fold equity and they can block your outs.
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