Live plo spot. 1-2-5 straddle

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Live plo spot. 1-2-5 straddle

Game is 10 handed, hero has a tight solid image.
from maybe 20 hands villain is tight passive.

Stacks are aprox 100x staddle

Hero (800~) is small blind
Villain (550~) is button

Preflop
re straddle to $10, MP calls, button calls , hero calls with A823ss, BB calls, straddle calls

6 runners

Flop ($60) A86 rainbow (no backdoor flush)

Hero checks, BB bets $40, straddle calls, re straddle folds, Mp calls, Button calls,

Hero check raises to $200, all fold to button

Villain shoves ($550) total

pot is about $930

$340 to Hero?

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midori 10 years, 2 months ago

Well, we have to call it off now, getting ~3:1 odds. Unlucky if you ran into sets.

On this flop though, I would prefer leading out. It's a straddle pot with no raiser, and you are quite likely to have the best hand on flop that you don't want to give them a free card.

erdian 10 years, 2 months ago

When you x/r you kinda belive in your hand thats it's the best and I think you should follow your instinct on this one. It feels to me like Btn decided to be tricky and play his AAxx this way and you got it in horribly at the same time you block everything but 66.

The thing is IF he wants to be aggresive with his draw he should do it right away on the btn. Raise it up so he can pot on bricks+ when his straight hits. So yeah its a really crappy spot and villian should ''mostly'' have sets here UNLESS you have specific reads. If he puts you as tight passive he might just jam a draw as your action turns the hand face up.

Villian could himself have A8xx here. I think if u really got a ''bad'' feeling here you can fold since you are mostly breakeven here or loosing money. But this spot is different analysing away from the table and ingame where I would most likely play the hand as you but realize afterwards it might be a loosing play vs the range villian is having in this spot.

mattng23 10 years, 2 months ago

Thanks for the replys.

With $340 to call i felt pretty much committed to the hand. Villain flopped a set of sixes which he didn't want to re-raise with on the button. He wasn't at all happy I called him, believing his own hand dead.

What do you guys think is better? To lead the flop or go for a check raise with 5 runners behind?

Also about my check raise sizing. Do you think it is arguable that there is some fold equity to be had by c/r full pot (260) instead of (200)?

superbad 10 years, 2 months ago

I really think you should fold pre not being results oriented your hand is just WAY too weak to call from the worst position in a pot that's always going 4 way to flop minimum if you can get past 3 people who can reopen the betting after your call.

mattng23 10 years, 2 months ago

I think its fine pre in all honesty, online its a fold but live I feel with an ace suit its an ez limp. Not worried about it getting re-raised. Only the most premium holdings are going to reraise me and with only two people behind that can raise its like a 5% chance and even then i get to see what everyone else does.

superbad 10 years, 2 months ago

You said you're sb so there's bb, and 2 straddles that's 3 people you think 3 players raise a combined 5% of time pre? lol. So yeah if it gets raised now you limp fold and spew 9 or call and play a bloated pot with a terrible hand :) Even if it doesn't get raised you're not in a good situation unless you're playing in a game where if you flop a flush players are just gonna get all there money in drawing dead against somebody with your image.

erdian 10 years, 2 months ago

I disagree with superbad, live players can make some huge errors with some very bad hands or spazz much more frequintly then on the internet. Sure his position is quite bad but giving the fact that hero is probably quite comfortable in his PLO play and that the pot is allready quite big is a factor worth considering. The only bad thing about this hand is that it cannot flop good wraps on like 45X since u will be drawing badly. But the suited ace makes it possible to flop 2pair with draws etc.

Sure this hand might not be so much ev+ and I myself would probably fold it here but thats because I am not so confident in my omaha play. BUT if he now decides to play this hand and flops what he does you kinda have to go with it.

Yeah IF u gonna x/r I think just pot it. Make them put money in with A6T9 or just some kind off draw.

superbad 10 years, 2 months ago

I never said anything about his post flop play as played although I think that's highly debatable as well. I play live haven't played much online recently (live in US) so I know the macro of these games quite well I highly doubt even good regs can turn a profit on this preflop call this hand flat out sucks it's a one way hand that doesn't flop well and the fact you can only find ONE thing bad about A823 is kinda mindblowing tbh. When you flop two pair with this hand you're hard pressed to get a lot of action from hands you crush ditto if you flop a wheel. He said he has tight solid image so I doubt many are spazzing deep if he flops gin that's if he makes it to a flop which is not guaranteed and I don't see how the pot is already quite big with the eff stacks. I really hope everyone I play cold calls this hand to a double straddle mw from sb though so maybe I'll shut up ;-) If it's like A853ss even I would say his call is fine but A823 not for me.

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