Doubt id ever wanna squeeze here with a rainbow hand with these stax unless good villain folds a lot and the others are bad, face up and passive but perhaps u had a good reason to.

AQT+fd is probably the least likely hand combo wise of the ones u listed. But thats just going on the % of his range (more combos of JJ+fd fex)

This seems like a great Problem for PJ, ill look at it asap there. Doubt we can fold tho so id call and either call turn or raise turn on bricks.

spassewr: Thanks for your response.

Villain will call every time pre, almost never 4-bet but fold a lot after the flop especially with two left to act behind him. And yes the others are very bad so I 3-bet pretty wide on the button against most players in this game. Not many of the bad players open in this game so what happens a lot is a good player will open a couple bad players will call, I will 3-bet button and everyone will call. I usually get heads up after the flop against one bad player while in position. I ofter get a lot of value in spots like this as depending on the villain some call way to light and some fold way to much. I also very rarely lose big pots because I am only getting raised by basically the nuts. The downside is getting into spots like this.

My initial reaction was to fold and look for a better spot especially given the softness of this game. But after putting more thought into it I think calling and shoving blank turns may be better. Just kind of a tough spot to get in 800 bb against a range of made hands that beat or tie me or a big draw. Which makes me want to call blank turns and hope for a blank river. I have no idea how to figure out which way is better which is why I am here :)

you already did all the work. just plug in his range and play accordingly.
i guess its a fold otf this deep...

"I will 3-bet button and everyone will call."

Kind of why I wouldn't 3 bet this hand. (you should just pot it too)

"I also very rarely lose big pots because I am only getting raised by basically the nuts."

Is this ^^ what is happening here? Or maybe he is a "one and done" type and you can own him on scary turns because:

"he will bet flush or straight cards mostly only if it makes his hand and bet a king or a jack only if he makes full"

As played I would call and evaluate turns. Let's not forget that you have the second nut blocker. (Qh) I would probably bet a non pairing heart as well as the straightening cards if checked to.

I think your 3 bet pre put you in this really awkward spot and I think you really need to know villains strategy as well as factor in all the previous game dynamics to make an accurate decision here.

I think In a vacuum, I would probably just fold because the best case scenario looks like you are getting free rolled by the same hand. However, this is not a vacuum so lets go HAM and see what happens.

I think folding flop is best. We have around 20% (I excluded naked kj from his range) vs his range and on brick turns our equity decreases vs said range. Way too deep to call down here, or to get it in on the flop.

I strongly dislike the 3b pre. I'd prolly flat here and play fit or fold unless a nut blocker comes into play. I think squeezing to less than pot is also a mistake.

Fold flop seems best given your reads.

http://www.propokertools.com/simulations/show?b=KhJc5h&g=oh&h1=Acksqhjd&h2=25%25%3A%28hh%3A%28aqt%2Ckj%29%2Cjj%2Ckk%2Caahh%2Ckqjt%2Cahqt%2Caq%3Aahh%2Cat%3Aahh%29&s=generic

We have 43% vs this, so if u really think nfd+AQ/AT as well as nfd blocker+wrap is in there i wouldnt fold.

If we remove those weaker combos we have about 33% so it gets close at that point and i wouldnt mind a fold

Just getting back to this thread. I guess I don't know the syntax of propokertools as well as you, Spassewr. Would you mind explaining some of the syntax? When I plugged in a range, which included a lot of semi-bluffs/hands we are head of, I still couldn't get us anything close to the 43% that your range has. I did it like a week ago, and the best I found us at was like 33% as you wrote in the latter part of your post.

If you find the time to do this, thank you.

Really tough spot this deep, but yes as others have said my default is to just peel pre and not 3b. As played.. Think having the Qh is important and puts more draws in his range, so peeling and jamming OTT against this player type is probably the standard. Folding is certainly fine with live reads, but I'd imagine it's close either way.

he's more likely to c/r with Ah in his hand than Qh imo