Live $2/$5 NLH w/ $20 PLO bomb pot on dealer change. Profitable in long run?
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Live $2/$5 NLH w/ $20 PLO bomb pot on dealer change. Profitable in long run?
Hi guys,
In my Live $2/$5 nlh game, there is a $20 bomb pot when the dealer changes. You can put out $20 if you want. Then, the pot usually is 7-8 way and a hand of PLO is dealt. You go straight to the flop. Sometimes, it plays normally starting at post flop. Sometimes, the dealer deals 2 boards, then the hand is played through with 2 turns, and 2 rivers. Do you think playing in this setup is +EV in the long run? You can sit out if you are in a bad position as well, and play when IP. Do you think it is profitable IP? Usually there is 2-3 fish at the table with $1k stacks and several fish with $400-700 stacks. I always have at least $1k in front of me.
I have played several hundred thousand hands of online PLO and beat $0.25/$0.50 at 8bb/100 and have a 50k hand sample at 100 PLO where I have beaten the game for 6bb/100. This is on ignition poker. I am also a profitable PLO live player. I understand how to play postflop, and how not to overvalue hands like bottom set and medium flush draws multi-way. I'm not an oustanding PLO player and mainly focus on NLH, but I know enough to have a skill edge in PLO Live line ups. My concern with this setup is that you get dealt a lot of trashy hands that play bad multi-way where you are often just folding post flop. We are put in a lot of high variance/marginal spots post flop. Even though these players have little PLO experience, since its heavily multi-way, we will often have to play pretty straight forward with the 7-8 way pots. On the other hand, can we overcome rake in the long run just nut pettling, making a hand, and value betting vs nlh fish that overvalue their PLO hands?
What do you guys think? What about 1 board vs 2 boards?
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You are in a great spot!
I understand how at times it can feel like you are torching 4bb every 45 mins but sitting 200bb deep with multiple fun players at a game they probably never play isn't an edge you should pass on...
UNLESS:
1. You are not rolled for the variance (sounds like you are)
2. Taking a bad beat in a PLO hand will destroy your mental state for the rest of the session (doesn't sound like you).
3. You don't care if you are invited to private games (I don't).
Rake isn't an issue since the cap is already hit with 7-8 players seeing the flop, I hope ;)
Nut pettling, making a hand, and value betting vs nlh fish that overvalue their hands are how most live PLO regs make a living.
GL!
Would you still be playing from the worst positions like SB/BB?
100% yes.
This is the spot where having a jovial attitude at the table really pays off. If I saw a reg continuously sitting out in the blinds during bomb pots, I would start bringing him coupons from the newspaper and occasionally tipping the dealer for him.
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Really no one in my game cares and I don't have private game considerations. Do you think its +EV is my real question still? Guess if you hit a strong hand OOP, not too big of a deal in that players bet waaaay too wide multi-way (like betting 7 way and better a bare overpair).
I would still be playing it from the blinds. Playing deep PLO against horrific players seems like a great spot even if you are OOP
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