KKJ5ds OTB facing 3 bet pre and strange line post flop (microstakes 4PL)
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KKJ5ds OTB facing 3 bet pre and strange line post flop (microstakes 4PL)
Okay so I can’t get the hand history to work from Microgaming so will attempt to just write it out. Been thinking a lot about this hand and think I made a big mistake folding river.
Three handed. Effective stack 200bb. I open pot on the button with KKJ5ds. The sb folds and the big blind pots. I call. I think this is fairly standard. No history with villain. I do have him tagged yellow which means that he kind of knows what he is doing but is on the looser side.
Flop is 472 all diamonds giving me the second nut flush. Villain check calls 75% psb.
Villain checks a Ten on the turn. This is where I think I make a big mistake, I check back. My reasoning being that if he has AAxx no flush , I’m miles ahead, like have him pretty much drawing dead and am crushed if he has AAxxdd
River is a Q. Villain checks again so I go for value and bet 75% pot and villain rips it in my face, check raising pot.
Now, Is villain ever playing the nut flush like this? I mean ever. I have the second nuts and there are 4 diamonds on the board and two in my hand.
I remember listening to a Phil Galfond video where he says when things don’t make sense a good default strategy is to just call. I folded. I levelled myself into a fold where I think it should have been a clear call, as am at the near top of my range..
I think my turn check back made villain think he could successfully turn the nut flush blocker into a bluff, as most people would be going for 3 streets of value with the second nuts here.
Thoughts?
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I think it’s a call on the river but other than that I think you played it fine. I think betting 3 streets is risky vs AA heavy range so I don’t mind the check on the turn to not bloat the pot. I think in micro stakes 3bets are almost always AA unless you have seen villain 3bet before. Does seem like a way ahead/way behind scenario and I don’t think lower flushes usually will call 3 streets.
Checking three streets oop with the nut flush here would be a pretty strange play especially given you didn’t bet the turn. Most villains with nut flushes I think would bet river for value when turn checks around because hero often is checking back river a lot but calling with hands like 10-Q high flushes.
much more likely that villain has nut flush than nut flush blocker because he check called the flop.
I like a smaller sizing on these boards.
I have been watching a ton of videos about sizing and agree a smaller bet size in this spot would be better. And when i think about it more if villain had the nut flush here he played it in a way which would have won him more if i wasn't such a river raise calling nit..
i mean being 4pl it is also possible he doesn't know the rules and thought he actually had the nuts with his Ad : )
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