Jam the flop?

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Jam the flop?

BN: $6.72 (Hero)
SB: $6.17
BB: $4.30
UTG: $5.09
HJ: $4.41
CO: $5
No reads
Preflop ($0.07) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt A 7 6 5
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.17, SB folds, BB calls $0.12
Flop ($0.36) J 5 A (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.23, BB raises to $1.04, Hero calls $0.81
On the flop against his perceived range ((JJ,55),((J5,JA,5A)!(JJ,55,AA)),(KQT,432),(KQ,KT,QT)):21%, i would have 53%, do you think i should have jammed here?
Turn ($2.44) J 5 A K (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.34, BB calls $2.34
Here i think it might have been better to check back instead of raising, since basically any hand that called the flop would have called this turn (maybe 2P would fold here but not anything helse), so my Fold Equity wasn't that great, and this K only helped my opponents range.
River ($7.12) J 5 A K 5 (2 Players)
BB bets $0.75, and is all in, Hero calls $0.75

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Tom Coldwell 10 years, 7 months ago

I don't like the range you've assigned (seriously, every broadway gutter seems CRAZY optimistic). My gut says, without reads, fold flop. Like, when you are behind you are pretty much dead, and I think the vast majority of the hands you see raising here at the micros have you in reasonably bad shape (plus very, VERY few hands see you in good shape - just try putting that range back in and removing the gutters and you'll see what I mean. Then remove J5).

ohgodwhy 10 years, 7 months ago
How would you play this vs someone who aggressively raises cbets though (lets say 20%+) ? Just stackoff? Call and play further streets IP? Check back in the first place to prevent this high variance spot and because the board is relatively dry and not that much to protect from?


Tom Coldwell 10 years, 7 months ago
Depends how I perceived them as achieving that stat. If I thought they managed it by stacking off w/ stupid hands, then I guess I'd bet/go with it hoping to see J5 or KQJ or w/e. However, if I perceived this as being achieved by playing draws very aggressively and attacking boards that are bad for our range etc., I'd still bet/fold because I don't think this is a flop where a thinking aggro will lose their shit and stack-off really weak. Note that even AKQ isn't doing too badly against us so it's not easy to get it in crushing against a competent player.

Certainly not checking back though 'cas 1) I have a very strong hand, 2) value, and 3) I wanna be betting pretty much my entire range here (dry board, good for a raiser, and my game relies heavily on winning the small pots with c-bets which requires me to be balanced enough to have my good-but-folding hands betting as well. Of course, against someone who chooses to try and combat my heavily exploitative bet/fold here - I am dumping a hand very high up in my range - I would obviously be willing to go with it, but those villains don't exist at these stakes).


mvppt 10 years, 7 months ago

You are right, against that new range i would be a ~31% underdog, i definitely need to be more careful when playing this kind of hands.

Thanks

Simon Ash 10 years, 7 months ago

I would agree with Tom re people at this level not usually raising without having you beat here.... yeah there are a few utter psycho's who would stick it in with any 4 cards as they hate money (we could probably name a few as well) but absent of that I would hate life and fold...what draw on that board is he raising you with. Also, quite a lot of people at that level have severe MUBS when it comes to AAxx that isn't a bone crusher and just call in bb rather than 3 bet you pre...


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