Interesting turn spot with nuts and redraw against weak range
Posted by Jonathan Davis
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Jonathan Davis
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Interesting turn spot with nuts and redraw against weak range
UTG: Jon Doe: $0
LJ: Chicharitoe: $120.28
HJ: L.Skola1: $86
CO: lucylooose: $134.39
BN: Jrd222b: $100
SB: coschou: $31
BB: philnat: $193.64
LJ: Chicharitoe: $120.28
HJ: L.Skola1: $86
CO: lucylooose: $134.39
BN: Jrd222b: $100
SB: coschou: $31
BB: philnat: $193.64
Preflop
($1.50)
(6 Players)
Jrd222b was dealt
A
2
J
T
Chicharitoe folds, L.Skola1 folds, lucylooose raises to $3.50, Jrd222b calls $3.50, coschou calls $3, philnat calls $2.50
Chicharitoe folds, L.Skola1 folds, lucylooose raises to $3.50, Jrd222b calls $3.50, coschou calls $3, philnat calls $2.50
Flop
($14.00)
K
Q
9
(4 Players)
coschou checks,
philnat checks,
lucylooose checks,
Jrd222b bets $8.50,
coschou calls $8.50,
philnat folds,
lucylooose calls $8.50
Turn
($39.50)
7
(3 Players)
coschou bets $19,
lucylooose calls $19,
Jrd222b raises to $88,
lucylooose folds
River
($165.50)
4
(2 Players)
Final Pot
coschou has
8
7
Q
9
Jrd222b has
A
2
J
T
Jrd222b
wins $93.70
,
Jrd222b
wins $69
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At least on the turn, you get to protect your hand or make him call with poor equity (as well as somehow get it in against JT, though he shouldn't have it, as you said).
I'd either pot the turn, or make a small-medium raise. At least that way there's a pot to bluff into on the river.
Unfortunately, there's just no good way to make much money here no matter what you do. Nice hand.
I feel like after a all in lead and a call we would never raise here w/out a value hand. so wouldn't a small raise look even stronger? is it fine to just pot shove here with all the hands we want to continue with?
He probably holds some trashy draws - mainly flushes + gutters - two pair + gutters, and the occasional set (I feel this is by far the least likely option). This means that the majority of the time he will have substantially less than 20% equity. Therefore, if you raised small to maybe $45-$50, he would still be making an error calling, but may be more able to convince himself it's ok.
On top of this, such a small raise, when called, also gives you the benefit that you can put the rest in on the river giving villain such good odds that he'll feel compelled to pay off FAR more often than with the dry sidepot which exists when you just call. We almost certainly get to stack him if he makes a flush at the very least, something which should make up for those times we just can't get away when he fills up, although if he's truly this passive, maybe we can find a hero fold (unless it's a flush pairing card, I grudgingly click call on those).
Interested to see what others think, but I don't think I'm a fan of calling. Whether I'm raise>shove or shove>raise I'm undecided, although I am currently leaning towards a smaller raise just because this guy seems like a passive drooler who might just click call if it's cheap and it's always nice to force people to actually make a mistake.
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