How about A dry bluff?
Posted by lofigr
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lofigr
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How about A dry bluff?
BN: $66.32
SB: $26.30 (Hero)
BB: $25.76
SB: $26.30 (Hero)
BB: $25.76
Villain is amazing player.
Floater, calling station etc etc.
He called my top set (Kings) + King hi FD on turn and won hand with just gutter. It was 5 min ago.
If I am not tilted now, never will be.... I continue to play and here comes perfect challenge for me....
Floater, calling station etc etc.
He called my top set (Kings) + King hi FD on turn and won hand with just gutter. It was 5 min ago.
If I am not tilted now, never will be.... I continue to play and here comes perfect challenge for me....
Preflop
($0.35)
(3 Players)
Hero was dealt
A
A
A
8
BN raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.80, BB folds, BN calls $1.95
BN raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $2.80, BB folds, BN calls $1.95
Flop
($5.95)
3
K
4
(2 Players)
Anyone not continuing here?
Are we barelling just flop or we go further and stop when we get info Villain might hit it and we feel he doesn't give up?
Are we continuing when heart hits turn?
ty
PS I could've folded this hand pre- I know.... I am in SB, don't re raise that hand pre - I know... That's vacuum play.
Villain calls everything, and paired board is jack pot for me. I build pot, I invite him....
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This is hand I was reffering in my post. I was barreling, he called and then he bet river.
I called last $8 knowing I lost it....
I barrel with ace of hears 3 streets if flop is 3 hearts
if you show consistency from flop, ppl will rarely call 3 barrels, i think i was caught doing that too rarely compared to how much i won, including ppl who call all the way to rvr and fold there to a pot bet ( prolly fishing some boats ) Trouble in that hand is that he doesnt believe you got hearts~ when u start to barrel on 3 of color on flop~ its really hard for anyone to call 3 barrel
Depends on villain a lot... If heart hits turn, the harder he folds... It needs extremely good read vs particular opponent...
A dry bluff is played same way you have NF, that's key to success. If opponents doubts - he calls with let's say J hi flush...
Additionally - you need to be good actor even online... Sizing is very important imo. It's not that easy, btw..
true that, im playing most often zoom so its bit of a vacuum play not personal as if you were to play at table where you need to be balanced and maybe not quiet appropraite to play with opponent who you have history with of some kind as well as reads
so firing 3 streets with ace blocker is very much dependable on how nitty r loose your opponent sees u, how often he will call you down light etc, but as general suggestion i like to 3 bet 3 street with nut flush, as well at times with blockers, so person really has hard time to read when u actually have blocker , and to mix its good to ckeck some nutflushes on turn as well, ppl tend to talk them into you actually dont have it and u fired with blocker and gave up
just cought very same guy reraising me with str8 + A dry... not convincing + he has not read me well yet...Don't 3B trip aces, they play very bad postflop. The fact that he calls a lot makes things worse for you, not better. Now you have to bluff a ton to win the pot, and you'll be stuck in lots of dark tunnel bluff spots.
As played, bluff the flop. Just note that most of your c-bets will be bluffs after 3-betting AAAx, since you almost never flop any improvement.
How far should you go with your blocker bluff? Very read dependent. Some opponents only call flop with flushes, some float with more hands. Some of those who only call with flushes give up on the turn, others call again. Some give up their flushes on the river, some call down. Once you know, it's not hard to exploit.
Indeed re. trip aces. This is where you might want to skip the 3-bet altogether and go directly to 4-betting! ;-) (which would obviously work a lot better in NLO than PLO)
postflop - they suck, no improvement, it's not even clever to 3-bet single AA hand OOP, but ok...
as I wrote - it was challenge, but I was under "light tilt", the indicator was "more 3-betting hands that you usually don't 3-bet".... as simple as that
ty
i didnt even see it was trip aces~...toomuch poker, need some rest i guess :)
Always the night shift. :-)
My general impression of low-stakes villains playing these sorts of boards is that they don't like to fold if you just barrel through (assuming they have a flush). However, they'll usually fold flops if they don't have at least top two. Therefore, my readless line here once we've 3-bet (which I don't do for the reasons Zen stated earlier) is probably to bet, check/jam. The bet is nice 'cas you'll just fold him a lot of the time, whilst when he calls and you get a raise in, most people in these games are more capable of finding their fold button so you should probably manage to win the pot.
RESULT: Turn was 8 hearts - which was very nice card, I full pot it once more, he called.
and now......
..... river is....
....... ACE
I full pot it, he was thinking - which was excellent sign, and ....
.... he called with KK. I won the hand!
"the lucker"
GOOd, note someplace he either has no fold button at all, or he doesnt believe you at all , either of 2, yo cant bluff that guy much )
I remember I won vs AA and KK $70 pot with 9876 ($25 buy in), but also lost big pot vs 1 player with AA on A8d3d vs A8BBdd on diamond river.... ( AI on flop)
You shouldn't have many naked Ah combos here, so you should fire at least two barrels here if you want to play balanced.
I disagree, if you make your barreling range too strong for him to call down small flushes and two pairs you will make money with your barreling range. The fact that you lose with the few naked Ah combos in your range against calling stations should be negated by the times that you get nits to fold better hands.
If you are draining your bankroll a lot then you 3-bet too much naked Ah combos and you bluff too often.
I disagree. Given most villains won't alter their calling ranges based upon the frequency with which we're barreling bluffs here, our value range is unaffected by how often we fire through with the blocker. Therefore, our primary consideration is whether a villain is capable of folding a small flush. If we are not in possession of that information, our strategy should be based upon whether we expect the average villain to hero-fold and then continue accordingly (hence my bet, check/jam strategy - I believe a raise has vastly more fold equity against a random low-stakes villain than a 3-barrel).
lolz..
from 150k hand sample I'm not making money "just" with the naked A-bluff. However, together with my Nutflushes, I'm making a lot of money.
Usually against a reg, I 3barrel unless board is pairing (I sometimes give up on the turn already).
Most of the time against a station, I suggest 2barreling (I'm pretty sure that most stations call a 3rd barrel, after calling the 2nd). You should still 2barrel > 1barrel as a station is famous for peeling 2pair-type of hands on the flop, but you still have a decent foldequity on the turn.
Hope that helps as a general gameplan on PLO25...
"I believe a raise has vastly more fold equity against a random low-stakes villain than a 3-barrel"
This is very true, I have played a decent amount of micro stakes PLO25-PLO100 and raises scare the majority of players away from speculative hands.
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