General HUD stats for 6-max and some general questions

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General HUD stats for 6-max and some general questions

Hi everyone!
I just started playing PLO seriously around 1 and a half week ago because i find myself more profitable in PLO
I consider myself a beginner.
Anyways here are some general questions i want to ask
Is there a general guideline as to my VPIP has to be near PFR like holdem?
I just transitioned from holdem to Omaha
And what would be a recommended buyin size for a serious Omaha player?
Are zoom players all nit's?
And is it profitable to jam pre-flop with KKdouble suited with no read
Thanks.

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ZenFish 11 years, 10 months ago
Lots of different styles will win against bad opponents. You can't go wrong with a 23/15/5'ish TAG style while you learn the ropes. Small variations in the percentages don't matter, but don't play 14/10/2 or 40/10/3 or anything like that.

If by buy-in size you mean the amount you sit down with (or did you mean stakes?), then start out with 100 bb play and master that. The 250 bb ante/deep tables are fun, but that's a very different game that you can learn later.

From what I hear the Zoom games play pretty tight. The high rake at small stakes makes it an interesting decision for you. Play a lot of hands/hour against not-too-shabby opponents with measly rakeback, or plod away at another site with better rakeback and looser tables? You decide.

Auto-jamming KKds readless at small stakes PLO is not going to bring light into your life.
akaak91 11 years, 10 months ago
Thanks ZenFish!

What i meant by buy-in is my bankroll for certain stakes (e.g. 50 buy-ins of 100BB) for PLO. What is the amount of buy-in suitable for a serious player?

Great suggestions at the end. I must agree table selection is very important!

And yes I do agree with you on the last part because I find that people in small stakes only jams with aces.
ZenFish 11 years, 10 months ago
If by serious you mean serious about getting good and moving up, then I'd recommend you don't grind yourself to death at the low limits. No need to use 100 BI and such at the micros when you're playing to learn. But if you're playing mid stakes PLO for a living, you should use perhaps 200 BI.

In my opinion 50 BI or thereabouts is a fine BRM for a micro player who is serious about the game and wants to climb up. And don't be afraid to take controlled shots with less. Tomorrow is another weekend, and the games are probably good, so let's say you're sitting with $1000 and you see some fine $25PLO tables. Then by all means sit down and take a shot for a couple of BI, even if you don't quite have 50 BI yet.

Tom Coldwell 11 years, 10 months ago
I would say 50 may even be on the conservative side for the micros. 25PLO can certainly be played on a $1k roll.

As for games, I don't think Zoom is a good option 'cas people play tight which sucks. You make your money in these absurdly raked games mainly from spewy morons and Zoom discourages them from playing their 8852r from the SB. Much better to play the regular tables and, where possible, the loosest ones going - after all, who doesn't wanna be at a table where 2+ villains are VPIPing in excess of 65%?
akaak91 11 years, 10 months ago
Thanks guys! Really useful comments. And I have to agree there are so much bad players in normal tables than on zoom. Hope I could grind my way up!
jonna102 11 years, 10 months ago
There is less focus on "optimal stats" in omaha than in hold'em. I'd suggest not to worry too much about this from the beginning, and instead work out a style of play that works for you. Open limping or overcalling is not at all as bad as in hold'em, just make sure you do it with good hands.

There is also less focus on who has the preflop initiative, so learn to donk bet rather than check raise! ;-)

It is actually more difficult to play with initiative in omaha, so playing without initiative in the beginning may be a good way to learn, and then slowly move towards taking initiative with your stronger hands.
akaak91 11 years, 10 months ago
After what I read and what I see from the replies that you guys have given me, I guess HUD stats isn't that important for the current stage I am in. Maybe I'm over thinking a bit since I usually like to analyze my game with some sort of guide line.

And yes I do agree there is less focus on preflop initiative (from what I have notice) since the flop changes everything really fast. Therefore a lot of times putting the preflop best hand to a bad spot in post flop. The idea of donk betting I am still exploring and after what I have seen from your reply I would think about this element towards my game as to check raising.

About initiative, does aggression means initiative or the betting lead is the initiative or both?

Btw thanks for your reply considering these new factors in my game!

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