Gotta bet yea...bet folding seems ridic but at 500bbs gii vs a tight player here cant be good readless even tho id be suspicious that hes got wrap+fd but i guess he can still play QQ that way.

Oh its 5/10...still think id betfold explo. Vs some1 w these stats.

I would definitely bet on the bigger side. I agree with spassewr about the b/f but I wouldn't worry too much about it because I don't think you get c/r here very often.

well I did bet, and I did get x/r, and unfortunately I didn't fold.  c'est la vie and goodbye 280bbs.

QQ or AA? nits be liking the double c-r these days

QQ with an A blocker.  A pretty well played hand by him all in all, but you're correct about the double xr being very invogue these days.  I've been working hard on constructing turn betting ranges in these situations and increasingly I'm find they should be very very polarized.

I think you have to bet/call to protect your hand. If a villain has a big wrap, and picks up a flush draw, he could play it the same way too. If you check, you give that hand a chance to draw for free. He never has AA here, and the only hand that has u in a really bad shape is QQ. I think if you don't bet to protect your hand, and don't bet call it off, you become way too exploitative. Unfortunate to run into top set here...

With us blocking two tens,we discount more combos of 8 9 Tx in his range. Furthermore i dont think he should be xr ing strong str8 draws here with a LAG player behind since they work better as calls to allow the LAG player to draw thinly with his bad draws. Looks like a strong made hand to knock out the player behind. On turn,some players are just afraid to bet big on the turn and tilt fold on the river when a scare card hits. Thus xr becomes like the "only"option here for them to get stacks in and ensure they dont misplay any rivers. Live nits and bumhunters in live poker setting play like that alot although i can't say the same for online deep plo

Imo, an average player would have a range of (QQ, 89T) after flop x/r. And they usually bet the turn. So once he checks the turn i would be very suspicious since it means either on the flop or the turn they don't play like an average player plays. Without further reads being unable to define their range i would try and check the hand down to get a better read on his range in this spot.

If i decide to bet the turn it's only profitable under an assumption that villain has a lot of air in his flop x/r range, enough air to justify me betting turn for protection. Because if he doesn't have enough air on the flop and he checks the turn and i don't have an idea what he has i just give him an advantage in the hand if i continue betting.

But if i have a read that this particular guy c/r bluff with air on this flop a lot i would bet the turn for protection. And i would fold to a jam because i don't think an average player c/jams a random draw that has 27% equity.

I think you can either bet/fold or xback turn here.  Your equity is going to be really bad ai here with the Td blocker to his super wraps.  On the other hand, you're ahead of his XC range and betting lets you protect from hands like 8599 or something that he might xr bluff.  

I just ran a sim on this, and it seems like if you're betting turn here with around 54% of your flop bet/call range, then you'll be calling the XR at least 55% of the time before you need to include a hand this weak... so I think bet/fold looks like the play unless you're especially concerned to induce bluffs or protect your xback range.

...also, your hand has 29% equity assuming he always chooses to XR his wrap+FD hands on this turn, which is unlikely.  So def fold once you bet

I don't play PLO, but wouldn't this be like the quintessential hand to not be potting pre-flop (with stacks this deep)? 

You're basically building the pot in such a way that that you won't be able to semi-bluff (with your hand), and it seems like you won't be able to value bet that effectively when you hit (for large sizings on multiple streets at least).

I would also think that you certainly won't be able to get it in very good either (with the stack depth). 

I don't know if there's some equity distribution software for PLO, but I would imagine that on a lot of flops, a hand like this would not have that much equity when it hits (but it definitely wouldn't be behind on all that many occasions). 

On a few flops it would have a lot of equity but probably win a small to medium sized pot, though. 

Am I wrong about all this?

I'm potting because I want to ISO and play HU vs HJ and if one of the regs wants to 3bet I can call and play a 3bet pot with my implied odds.

Not potting and raising to 35 or 40 would be fine.  I don't think it makes a huge difference as long as you're fairly consistent with your ISO raise size with various portions of your range.  Mostly I just want to encourage the BTN to play tighter as a flat or 3bet by the BTN is the worse result for me.

I think we can b/f here as we have Td and the Ad turned, which both makes it unlikely he is on a draw.

As far as villains' line goes, he definitely should have some CRs with strong made hands in his range theoretically as he will have quite a bit of hands that want hero to xb too.

I don't see how you isolate if the fish isn't re-raising.  Not as often as you'd like to, at least. 

Aren't the stack sizes of the SB and the BB like the two stack sizes that make it least likely you'll get an iso?