DP & DS board on turn, can I re raise NF on river card that I block?

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DP & DS board on turn, can I re raise NF on river card that I block?

Short question... 6max $0,25 $0,50

board: 3h3s6s 6h Js pot is cca $20

H( As5s4hJh) was playing IP calling opponent's leading bets on all streets.
Is anyone re raising to cca 2/3 pot $13 river bet of opponent or always just calls?

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jonna102 11 years, 10 months ago

What would you accomplish with a raise?

lofigr 11 years, 10 months ago
I am probably best, probably....
He has either solo 3, either solo 6, either some 3A + F, 6A + F, so by re raise I am accomplishing:

- more value
- if he folds one of mentioned hands, he loses info upon my game

So jonna - just call - right?
Thanks.

PS I just called
Tom Coldwell 11 years, 10 months ago
It's very unlikely that you'll get value from a random 3 or 6 on a raise in my opinion. Better to just show down your hand and win the pot. Also, I wouldn't expect to win this pot every time - it's more than possible villain has you beat if he's firing all the way (although the double-pairing runout + the fact we block a J is very good for us).



jonna102 11 years, 10 months ago

Yes, at least not raise.  It's a pretty bad idea in general to draw to flushes on paired boards.  Double paired boards are maybe a little better, since it's a little bit less likely that he has a boat.  It's pretty possible that you're beat here, so you should certainly consider folding before raising.

Btw, it's also not a great idea to be raising just because you think you have the best hand.  There also needs to be something you're getting value from.  In this case, you would totally only get action from hands that have you beat.  So the raise would just end up costing you money.

CosmicTeapot 11 years, 10 months ago

Pretty opponent dependent here. Against some players there's definitely value in a small raise, but leaning towards calling the better he is. Any opponent reads/stats and what are the positions?

lofigr 11 years, 10 months ago
Don't remember, I forgot to make thread yesterday on this hand, and I wanted to... pity...
I guess I cought him bluffing and c-betting and floating a lot when I called bets on paired board.
I can play secure as everyone and fold his bet on flop, but I rely on my read and built opinion upon my opponent.
I also think that my position provides my to play like this. I was probably in BN having in mind what hand I had + what hand had my opponent...
I repeat once more - I called river as it is standard and correct play.
lofigr 11 years, 10 months ago
Ordinary, don't draw to flush on paired board. The fact that I did not give him credit he flopped FH, and I had NFD + OESD I called flop bet.
The thing completely changes on flop when board double pairs giving me 1 extra FD. I therefore call opponent's turn bet as nothing changed since flop, only I got extra draw and % that he did not flop FH increased.
When J hits river, I have blocker for his FH, so again I have good odds to call and win the hand.
I mean, everyone would call here probably, the question is how much do we compensate (if we do at all) our losses when we call with min re raises vs targeted opponents that will call it when we win the hand.
Just thinking aloud, maybe I am wrong....
encja 11 years, 10 months ago

I dont think anyone will call reraise with anything worse, depending on oponnent( really spazzy ) he could reraise you if there was still place for that( but you were both 100 BB so propalby no ) - but the question is would you call that. So i dont think you can get any value from that and depending on stacks you can get yourself in difficult position

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