Difficult decision to continue vs a very competent player with the nutblocker draw on the flop

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Difficult decision to continue vs a very competent player with the nutblocker draw on the flop

CO: $18869.98
BN: $12496.50
SB: $9681.60 (Hero)
BB: $7951
UTG: $4600
HJ: $4278
Preflop ($75.00) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt 6 8 A A
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO folds, BN raises to $175, Hero calls $150, BB folds
Flop ($400.00) 9 J 7 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BN bets $287.91, Hero calls $287.91
Turn ($975.82) 9 J 7 5 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BN bets $680.77, Hero raises to $2450, BN calls $1769.23
River ($5875.82) 9 J 7 5 3 (2 Players)
Hero bets $3850, BN folds
Final Pot
Hero wins $5932.82

This hand has been played vs cantbeat, supposed to be Harrington, but not clearly positive yet.

I think preflop is a call hoping to cold 4bet or something, let me know if I am missing something there.

Now the question is the flop:

I feel like I am very lost in this spot and not yet sure whats the best play with the nutblocker draw with the bdfd to the nuts, as well the the oesd (which is not too relevant I suppose?). I know that cantbeat will barrel a lot on the turn and river, so if we decide to float here with the plan to raise the turn as played but the turn bricks or he does make a flush, I am not sure he will fold it to a raise on the turn or the river. Another problem I see is that if the turn pairs and he barrels we have to fold? On the other hand we do have the bdfd as well which gives us some extra equity.

So the main question I have here is what is the better line especially 200bb deep. I think just raising the flop when 100bb to barrel off is the best play. Do we get enough credit by c/r the turn when deeper than that? Do we still want to rather raise the flop?

Thanks for the input guys!

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the3shells 11 years, 8 months ago

This is way higher than I play, but I'll take a shot.  I think the right way to think about the flop play is to do exactly what you would do if you actually did hold the nut flush draw. 

So I guess my answer is that your play is good ONLY if you would be check-calling with the nut flush draw and check-raising the heart on the turn.  And I think this makes turn and river play easier too--if you're committed to bluffing with nutblockers (which I guess depends on whether you think cantbeat is able to fold smaller flushes or sets), you'd play paired or bricked turns or rivers exactly as you'd play them if you were holding nut hearts.

applehead 11 years, 8 months ago

I like your line here. I wouldn't check raise this on the flop 100BB deep either (though I guess were 3-betting this hand pre often 100BB deep). I guess you can raise it against a high c-bettor but I don't see the nut flush blocker making a real difference on this flop texture. 

It's hard to comment how you should play different turns. It really comes down to how often he's barreling on given textures and how he views your flop calling range. 

John Beauprez 11 years, 7 months ago

I like the way you played it. If the board pairs I would call once more and then check/decide otr. A lot of players will actually merge their turn barrels here because they know it will either a) get them fold equity against hands that still have equity against their hand b) essentially purchase them a cheap showdown

The problem I see with check/raising otf using the logic that we want to "rep the nut blocker when the flush fills" is that we can a) shut ourselves out of the pot when reraised b) build a big pot with a questionable amount of equity against his peeling range and c) if the flush fills and he happens to hold a lesser flush, I think he's unlikely to surrender given the pot size that has now been created. 

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