Can villain play me profitably here?
Posted by Andreas Fröhli
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Andreas Fröhli
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Can villain play me profitably here?
Villain doesn't fold to my 4bet, he's a Reg and 3bets only 4% in Position on 700 hands, so I'm mostly having AA** there. I guess my hand is face up with those stack sizes.
Because he's a huge dog preflop for PLO hands, against this particular hand, I can POT any flop, right?
I would be folding 100% in his position, that is correct right? (with his Axxx hand vs 4bet) -given my 4bets are AA** 90% +
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You can pot any flop as unexploitable play, and in his position you are calling 100 percent as well if u hit at least part of the board such as one pair and board isnt xxy, tho his 4 bet flat cal was kinda not profitable at all but since he is there he has odds to call it off
Your 4-bet pre is completely standard. Also on this flop you should have more than 33%, it is hard to construct a calling range for him that makes you a big underdog on the flop. Also potting with your range is optimal since your range is more defined than his. If you bet so small that you could still fold you allow him to play turns optimal against your range, for instance by calling QT98 and fold on 5/7/A turns.
PLO doesn't get much easier than this...
But if we have FE how we can "easily" calculate our eq to have profitable shove?
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We're almost never below 33%, is there a flop you would definitely check-fold against this villain? Given that he also calls me with 3card hands (I call Axxx that way)?
How about opponents who only call 4bets with more suitable hands?
[I would be folding 100% in his position, that is correct right? (with his Axxx hand vs 4bet) -given my 4bets are AA** 90% + ]
I would be folding here, but some players like to play you in this spot because they "know" you have AAxx. All they need is to hit a little bit on the flop that is not scary and they will go for it. So to trap these guys, you have to 4bet some other hands too ( like QJT9, A987 ds, etc ) to balance your range, just when they think you must have AAxx...BAM you hit them with a str8!!!
[ Because he's a huge dog preflop for PLO hands, against this particular hand, I can POT any flop, right? ]
He won't usually be a huge dog after the flop unless he missed The whole world. I would not get into a habit of shoving AAxx down opponents throat after the flop on a routine basis.
If you can get 1/3 of the stack in pre with AA, you'll do ok shoving any flop HU. If Villain is calling 4-bets with lots of Axxx (like in this hand) and paired hands, you're really happy to shove, since these hands weaken his range a lot.
Yeah "IF"
Well, when you get to the flop, you'll know whether or not that's the case. ;-) If you have one pot-sized bet left, you can auto-shove AA and not worry about it. If Villain calls 4-bets with hands that shouldn't (and lot of people do at small stakes), even better.
If you have significantly more behind, you have to play smarter, but don't worry when there's only bet left for the flop.
Note that when you 4B AAxx with 100 bb stacks, Villain is losing money overall, even if he knows what you have (except your side cards). Once he has 3B and gotten 4B by AA, he can call profitably with hands like J987ss and such because calling and stacking off on his best flops is better than folding. That doesn't mean he's happy about it.
He's not trying to make money overall, he's trying to lose less than the -10 bb/hand (or whatever he 3-bets to) he would end up with if he folds to the 4B. This is possible with most unpaired/suited hands vs AA 100 bb deep, but if he calls with Axxx and pairs, he's making a huge mistake, and you're printing money.
And if he makes systematic mistakes on the flop, he can easily turn marginally +EV 4B calling hands (typically raggedy, singlesuited ones) into losing hands.
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