Can I fold Top Two Here? PLO25
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Can I fold Top Two Here? PLO25
BN: karto023: $15.14
SB: Dzidziaa: $14.78
BB: pauleverton: $48.82
UTG: Ph33roX: $25.45
HJ: DiabolSVK: $31.57
CO: wuytack77: $22.16
SB: Dzidziaa: $14.78
BB: pauleverton: $48.82
UTG: Ph33roX: $25.45
HJ: DiabolSVK: $31.57
CO: wuytack77: $22.16
Preflop
($0.35)
(6 Players)
Ph33roX was dealt
9
A
7
8
Ph33roX raises to $0.85, DiabolSVK folds, wuytack77 raises to $2.90, karto023 folds, Dzidziaa folds, pauleverton calls $2.65, Ph33roX calls $2.05
Ph33roX raises to $0.85, DiabolSVK folds, wuytack77 raises to $2.90, karto023 folds, Dzidziaa folds, pauleverton calls $2.65, Ph33roX calls $2.05
Flop
($8.80)
5
A
9
(3 Players)
pauleverton checks,
Ph33roX checks,
wuytack77 bets $8.43
No reads yet on both players. This is a zoom table fwiw.
Is my preflop call OK? Are we calling preflop if BB doesn't come along (impoving our odds)?
On the flop, I know there are only 2 aces left in the deck, but I feel like he has them here like 50% of the time. So when he has them I am crushed and when he has like AKJT I'm just flipping.
What do you think?
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Not sure how good it is to call pre-flop if you're hoping to get 56x or two spades board. Are there any other boards that you would like to see? Considering it's zoom people should be playing lot tighter, so this weighs to fold. Will be interesting what others have to say, i'm only beginner
I never fold and they always have aces :/
I prefer a fold pre opposed to opening; def fold to 3bet. Seeing as the villain didn't have a full stack at the start of the hand I tend to feel he is not going to be a solid player (could be wrong but often something I use when I don't have any other reads).
I get it in here as I feel his range is extremely weighted towards Axxx, P+fd. If you are ever folding on this flop then you DEF should not be playing the hand pre.
Good news is you have equity vs his entire range so you are never drawing dead. I'm at work so can't access EQ calcs but it would be worth running your EV there.
$17.23 in the pot + his 10.83 behind... $28.06. $19.26 for you to get it in. I think this is always a call with Top 2, blockers and GS on a FD board at the limits vs my perceived image of this vil.
Thanks man. What about same hand just double suited? still fold pre and fold vs 3bet?
Your hand doesn't overly support multiway pots... as an example this flop will be one of the better ones for you.. you are OOP and left guessing.
I think it is too easy to get owned when calling 3bets here even if doublesuited with this type of hand because their range has a lot of better A, higher card double suit and higher rundowns (kqj9, qj98, j1097 etc) so most times when you do get it in... you are going to be flipping or have your outs completely crushed.
This obviously changes when you have more information on the villain, any tendencies, reads, ranges where you can use a skill edge to gain advantage or if you know they stack off super light on flops so can get it in middle two pair boards with ease etc.
I like these hands IP though... A blocker, can overflush, can get good value and can rep hands so good for position + skill edge over your opponent scenarios.
+1. Though for me I always open this hand UTG(though I fold A765ss). Im curious about your UTG opening range if you fold this hand.
Pre opening seems fine/standard, 25 zoom regs are so tight that I would be surprised if we lose $$ by opening this hand. Once I get 3bet though, I'll just fold and move on. It's very hard to (out-)flop well with this hand against their vs. utg 3b range, which just has too many dominating Axxx hands.
As played you have to get this in, if he has aces we aren't drawing dead at least, and we are doing alright vs his overall ABBB range or Ax+FD, etc.
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