Bluff repping overfull (Was that great move or spewing money?
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Bluff repping overfull (Was that great move or spewing money?
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (9 Players)
MP: $88.11
UTG+1: $217.97
MP+1: $48.50
MP+2: $50.00
CO: $97.77 (Hero)
BN: $57.93
SB: $94.62
BB: $20.00
UTG: $17.75
UTG+1: $217.97
MP+1: $48.50
MP+2: $50.00
CO: $97.77 (Hero)
BN: $57.93
SB: $94.62
BB: $20.00
UTG: $17.75
Preflop
($0.75)
Hero is CO with
J
6
J
6
, , , , , , ,
Flop
($7.69)
5
5
3
, , , , ,
Turn
($7.69)
5
5
3
9
, , , , , , ,
River
($35.35)
5
5
3
9
4
, ,
Here UTG+1 has me covered. I have only 30 hands on him where he played 47/32. At river I just was quite sure that this is not the way how villain would play 99 or 55. I assumed that he would have 54. Given that I think that villain has a boat here (but not nuts, is it generally ok to put 180 bb in with nothing.
I kind of liked that move very much, but then I considered would I play 99 in the same way?
I kind of liked that move very much, but then I considered would I play 99 in the same way?
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don't try to bluff people off over fulls or fulls of any kind. zeebo theorum, nobody ever folds a full house
What do you think that is villains bet-fold -range here?
u can try this against a nit with a 9 blocker. not against an unknown 40/30 player. if you dont have any reads, u dont know how he would have played his 99xx
My reasoning here was that 99 would have preferred to raise at turn instead of calling there and then leading onto river. I think that EV for 99 is higher if he raise at turn. Then villain can still raise or at least call with hand that he thinks that is alive.
Then when he just called and decided to lead in turn, I deducted that he has a hand that he wasn't happy to go AI at turn, but prefers to get value at river. Only 54 or 67 (for straight) (maybe 62 or A2 for non-nut straight) are hands that I could imagine to play like that.
95 is even easier to exclude as that hand is very vulnerable and should definitely raise. That would loose only to one 99 combo (+ two sidecards)
So I excluded 99 away by the fact that there is more optimal way to play 99 in my opinion. Blocker would reduce 99 (or 55) combos from 5 to 2, but the logic that he is not supposed to have there 99 remains still the same.
But of course I need to be very careful in these as all you players whom I respect are suggesting not to bluff here.
Yeah, I think repping an overfull against a likely boat is often ill-advised in the first place, and doing so without a blocker is extra crazy. Focus on bluffing them off of weak hands :)
I'm folding this pre, especially with so many callers already. I don't set mine as low as JJ, but if I did, this is effectively JJ with a suited J in my eyes. The 66 does nothing great for me unless I flop quads. Maybe I'm too tight here, but this is not a call for me preflop like ever. RFI in LP? Sure.
I bet/fold flop blocking 64 and 65. Worth a stab after everyone checks, and we actually have some showdown value anyway, so it's worth protecting when we're good.
Fold turn. Mayyybe call, as BB can theoretically bet here with worse (though not super often). Turn and river are way too ambitious as played.
Well it seems you try to make fold villain's range which usually we do lot of value against because they don't fold.
As we say in France " On ne peut pas avoir le beurre et l'argent du beurre"
In this very hand villain actually folded and I have no glue what he had. I also edited the original post to make results visible.
I somehow had the feeling that in these hands when I actully have the nuts and try go get it in with full pots, villains are folding quite often. Somehow I just decided to bluff with intuition and it worked.
I still cannot say if that villain folded a boat or if he had something else. However I was quite unsure if I did it right and obviously people recommend to be more careful with these.
For getting value I recommend betting smaller.
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