Bankroll

Posted by

Posted by posted in Low Stakes

Bankroll

Hi guys, i would like to hear your opinions regarding building a bankroll from 1k to x amount within a couple of months.
What sites would you play?what limits omaha? Why play there and how many sessions a day.
Thanks.

8 Comments

Loading 8 Comments...

whysoeasy 12 years, 2 months ago
Depend if you're a omaha beginer or not. If you start poker or if you play nl100+ and have a good understanding of the general poker concepts.
Anyway with 1k i would start playing plo10 for learning the game and switch plo25 when I fell confortable playing omaha.
I would not play on pokerstars if you're not supernova. Rakeback is important at micro because you will pay a lot of rake so starting at micro on PS mean you will don't have rakeback for few months.
For the last question nobody can answer it.
ZenFish 12 years, 2 months ago
I recommend a 100+ BI roll for grinding PLO above the micros ($100PLO and up). In the micro/learning phase you're better off with more aggressive BRM, however (or it will take forever).

When you're playing to learn you have the freedom to table-select-like-crazy, 1-table, or move down whenever you want. Unlike a professional grinder who always needs to consider his hourly. You can take your sweet time with everything and this gives you better control over win rate and variance.

Warming up at $10PLO sounds like a good idea with $1k. Once you're convinced you beat $10PLO, you can start shotting at $25PLO. I'd want at least 50 BI for shotting at a level, and you should have a strict stop-loss limit when doing so.

For example, you could grind $10PLO until you have $1250, then take a 10 BI shot at $25PLO. If it fails, you move back to $10PLO and repeat the process until you succeed. Feel free to tweak these numbers, the important thing is to have reasonable BRM rules, and then FOLLOW THEM.



Gwaihir 12 years, 2 months ago
Where can you get a 50%+ rakeback deal for PL5-PL25? I am playing Stars atm and rake is insane (but I thought its pretty much the same verywhere for PLO micros).
Henrik Hey 12 years, 2 months ago
What is your thoughts if it is PL HU?
I play HU 0,50/1, 1/2, 2/4, 3/6. I can built up but in the long run i get even or loose. Cant seem to beat the rake on top i have to beat my opponents. I have considered to completely quit poker - it seems so hard for the time being. Anyone have any good ideas or comments..
ZenFish 12 years, 2 months ago
Henrik: BRM doesn't protect losing or break even players (they will eventually go broke if they play long enough). If you suspect you're not a long term winner, you might want to to consider yourself on a budget instead. Decide how much you're willing to lose/invest while learning, then follow through.

Exactly how much you need is very win rate-dependent. Double your win rate, and your BRM requirements is cut in half. Let's say a 3 bb/100 winner needs 150 BI to have a sufficiently low risk-of-ruin. He could get by with 75 BI if he improved to double his win rate.

Use this BRM calculator to estimate how much you need:

http://www.evplusplus.com/poker_tools/risk_of_ruin/

Plug in winrate + standard deviation (from HEM or PT), your desired risk of ruin (say, 0.1%), and you'll get a bankroll estimate. The difficult part is of course to estimate win rate accurately from a limited sample size (standard deviation converges quickly, though). The long run is very long in PLO, so just be conservative to protect yourself. Like I said, if you're not sure you're winning at all, using a budget mentality makes more sense.
Henrik Hey 12 years, 2 months ago
#Zenfish: Thx for your kind and soonest reply. i have tried to look at the calculator, but im not quite sure what to type in actually. I have PT4. I will have to use a bit more time to find out how to use the link you posted properly. Just from the heart, what would you recommend in PL HU for bankroll on 1/2? and when would you move up / down? and what is your thoughts on pokerstars RAKE? can I only beat the game if i become supernova / supernova elite u think?
ZenFish 12 years, 2 months ago
I'm not a HU specialist, so take this for what it's worth. If HU PLO is your main game I'd say don't play the next hand unless you have minimum 100 BI for the limit. If you want to take shots with less (say, when you see a particularly weak opponent sitting down on a higher limit), use a small, non-negotiable stop-loss limit.

That's from the perspective of a professional player. If you play for a living you should be very risk-averse in your BRM decisions. This may not apply to your situation, but protect yourself regardless and be conservative.

Be the first to add a comment

Runitonce.com uses cookies to give you the best experience. Learn more about our Cookie Policy