Awful line 2nd FH

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Awful line 2nd FH

BN: klask: $10.36
SB: BraunerBr: $10
BB: E Fyrst: $10
UTG: volchara09: $15.04
HJ: hoolig@n888: $3.85
CO: Ju551AA: $8.60
Preflop ($0.15) (6 Players)
E Fyrst was dealt Q J J T
volchara09 raises to $0.35, hoolig@n888 folds, Ju551AA folds, klask folds, BraunerBr folds, E Fyrst calls $0.25
Flop ($0.75) 8 J 4 (2 Players)
E Fyrst bets $0.55, volchara09 calls $0.55
Turn ($1.85) 8 J 4 A (2 Players)
E Fyrst bets $1, volchara09 raises to $2, E Fyrst calls $1
River ($5.85) 8 J 4 A 8 (2 Players)
E Fyrst checks, volchara09 bets $4.80

I donk flop cause trip and for the donk I am.

I think I need some help for this one. Apparently I lead turn which is Ad completing flushes. Is c/c river fine? I just don't think he would big bet Khi flush when board pairs. And the minLOLraise OTT I probably just have folded to. What do you think? Fold turn or c/c rivz? Thanks Fyrst 

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ZenFish 11 years, 4 months ago

I would check-call turn for the following reasons:

- A significant chunk of Villain's range now pulled ahead
- Against the rest of his hands, offering a free card is not very risky (we cover/block various straight draws)
- Checking gives his flop floats a chance to bluff


ZenFish 11 years, 4 months ago

I would fold unimproved. To defend against being exploited in that spot, you check some non-nut flushes on the turn (which is a natural way to play your lowest flushes). You'll have plenty of them.


viktor06 11 years, 4 months ago

"Let's say I c/c turn and he bets this big OTR.. Would you find a call?"

I'd fold for sure, you dont block any diamonds and block a lot of straight draws

As to the hand as played, you cannot fold turn with the FH odds you have, river is never a fold, I'm leaning towards c/shoving for value as played, but I'd usually lead

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