aa 4 bet pot, monotone flop, now what?
Posted by skandalous
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aa 4 bet pot, monotone flop, now what?
SB: uukong: $377.15
BB: Capdan: $122.15
UTG: hero: $107
HJ: SnaitsaB: $175.60
CO: Kirurgen79: $123
BN: ricky3132: $80
BB: Capdan: $122.15
UTG: hero: $107
HJ: SnaitsaB: $175.60
CO: Kirurgen79: $123
BN: ricky3132: $80
Preflop
($3.00)
(6 Players)
hero was dealt
7
A
A
6
hero raises to $4.50, SnaitsaB folds, Kirurgen79 folds, uukong folds, Capdan raises to $12.50, hero raises to $40, Capdan calls $30
hero raises to $4.50, SnaitsaB folds, Kirurgen79 folds, uukong folds, Capdan raises to $12.50, hero raises to $40, Capdan calls $30
Flop
($90.00)
J
4
Q
(3 Players)
Capdan checks,
hero bets $62.50,
Capdan calls $62.50
Turn
($215.00)
9
(3 Players)
River
($215.00)
2
(3 Players)
Final Pot
hero has
7
A
A
6
Capdan has
5
K
A
K
Capdan
wins $106
,
Capdan
wins $106
Is shoving the right play here? If so then at what stack to pot ratio does shoving become bad?
If not then at what stack to pot ratio does it become the right play?
thanks
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Yes, automatic shove situation "this shallow".
After 4betting AAxx versus any range (100bb deep), you can shove 100% of flops and the line as a whole will yield a profit. (This can be showed mathematicly, and have been many times). Instead of frettering over the fact that he will have clubs a certain percent of the time, keep in mind that he might to things like folding T98x!*c*c** on this board, thus making a huge mistake.
Let him be the one to figure out what hands he can call with, not the other way around.
When does this become -EV? Good question, and dependant on a million factors. I have a rule that I'm almost always comitting after 4betting aces. I balance this out slightly by not 4betting shitty aces as we get deeper, and around 180+bb stacks I'm down to 4betting hands like AA98ns+, AAxx ds, AKQJds, AKKBds, and still comitting on most flops.
And all this is not even taking into account that its retarded to not shove this hand, since you would want to shove AAxx:Ac*c** for value, and still have a balance shoving range (even though its almost only consisting of aces)
I like this reasoning. I use similar principles and stack depths for 4-betting aces, and I find it works pretty well. At 150+ bb it's obviously high variance and at 180 it might be roughly break even, but it's just the easiest way to get the full value from the hand.
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