$5/5 LIVE PLO - Three Easy Preflop Questions
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$5/5 LIVE PLO - Three Easy Preflop Questions
I played this session yesterday, and picked up some hands preflop that I wasn't 100% on my play. Would really love some feedback. Thanks guys.
Seat 1: Loose passive fish (pots when he has a big hand and otherwise is just checking and calling mostly) - $1500
Seat 2: Splashy preflop, sometimes raises really trashy hands pre, bad bluffs post without blockers, calls too light - $700
Seat 3: Hero - $1000
Seat 7: Good aggressive thinking reg - $2000
Hands:
1) 8 players. LJ (low jack) straddles. Hero is HJ with 5544ss. Hero ???
2) 3 limpers. SB checks.Hero BB with AKJT, Kss. Raise or check?
3) 9 players. Btn straddle. SB limps, Seat 1 limps BB, Seat 2 limps, Hero utg+1 with Kc Jc Td 4d. Hero??? 1 or 2 recreational players behind me have in the $500-$700 stack region, but the rest of players have $1000 or more in their stacks.
What would you do in these hands?
My thoughts:
1) If I had 7722ss, I would fold or even 7744ss I would be folding, but this seems closer to me since we have the connectedness. Online I would be opening UTG for sure, but not sure in this Live setting. The hand will often go 4-6 way I believe. Flopping bottom set in this scenario won't be too good for me, but its possible for some players to pay off a little lighter if I do hit, so seems close. What are you guy's thoughts?
2) I lean towards raise since we have 4 big cards and a K high suit, but I believe we have 0 fold equity and this pot will often go 5-way and I'll be OOP vs 3 players. This could be good if i hit and it is easier to get stacks in, but without the nut suit, I'm not sure if the "nuttiness" of my combo is good enough to be raising with little to no fold equity preflop.
3) This one is interesting because with the K and J of the same suit, and not being able to effectively isolate the pot, I feel like I should fold preflop vs pot raise. I don't want to limp because there is a bit too much raising going on in the game preflop vs some other passive 5/5 games I have played in. I do like some smaller raises with parts of my range that benefit and balance that with weak AAxx, but wandering with 2 limpers for $10 each, if its worth raising my hand to $20 or $25?
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I am totally lost here... can you STRADDLE from any position in your game?
Yes you can
I think I got it. 1st hand as it seems you are kinda(UTG) You can probably call and play very timid and passive unless based on tells is a fold. Lows sets and unless the flop is perfect 236/A23 its hard to bet for value. Mostly it's hard to see a flop cheap.
Second hand is a raise, Hight connected cards. when you flop GIN its gonna be 2pair+draws of some kind. Worst case scenario if ONLY K high fd. U can play it passive. But you aim to hit STRONG or get out.
3rd, most likely a raise. Will create quite nice SPR situations, I wont fault you for calling either then playing it timid.
fold check fold
I really like this. I think the is a great discussion because we have some differences of opinion here on what to do preflop. Would really enjoy hearing everyone else's responses.
snap fold, check, not sure/lean towards a fold
Live PLO w/ this straddle format is the absolute nuts fwiw.
1) 4455s Raise size = pot to fold out btn as much as possible and limit the likelihood it goes multiway since this hand is very valuable when we manage to capture position and there are 3 or less players (but 4 isn't an auto-lose. 5 players and we're now x/f sets to a single bet on the flop). When btn continues we definitely lose maneuverability but our hand is pure enough to win the favorable boards for our range in a game where most of the players that'll be in that hand w/ you are player types likely to telegraph their hand strength one way or another. I do wish we were deeper but this stack is still fine. But I'd always fold if expecting to get called by an avg of 4.5 players (if one guy calls it dominoes most of the table to call along) behind. Pairs to pot 5544/5533/5522/6655/6644/7766/7755/7722/8877/8866/8855/8822/9988/9977/9966/9922/and then all the TTxx+. The bold is an interpretation I'm making based on what I've observed from the Monker PF solution but am not sure if the blocker effects that the 22xx combos should have on the ranges of players who see a flop (even fish know to fold junky 2xxx hands) should give us higher pot share when saw flop. Dunno seems right tho.
2) AKsJsT this hand only likes VERY specific flops particularly in this dynamic but also speaking generally. Doublesuited the good way then we flop favorable matchups often enough to juice it but since you said you have no fold equity that means you get to choose the postflop SPR by just 5x'ing whatever your sizing. SPR> 4.5-5 should be best for equity realization.
3) Make the KJT4ds a KJT7ds+ and pot it. The position of the straddle is offering us a tempting situation with the KJT4 but in this situation it may as well be missing a 4th card unless the game is VERY showdown-averse which would prob be a first in history all-time ever for live PLO.
1) going multiway with this hand is a mistake. You will almost always be check folding flops and bottom sets can put you in VERY tough situations. even if you flop a set with a FD, you still most likely won't be good multiway.
2)4handed with no one showing aggression, I would full pot this pre
3) Tough, but personally this would be a limp/fold (unless insane price comes back around, e.g. min raise from later positions pre).
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