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5/10 Beginner Question

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5/10 Beginner Question

CO: Jon Doe: $0
BN: schuschnix: $1025.50
SB: RenoVavzh: $1067.25
BB: Hapycamp: $1235.25
UTG: AlexisTexas85: $1000
LJ: HBDYWI: $3398.75
HJ: dawnrun1: $2660.06
Preflop ($15.00) (6 Players)
schuschnix was dealt Q T 9 7
AlexisTexas85 folds, HBDYWI folds, dawnrun1 folds, schuschnix raises to $21, RenoVavzh folds, Hapycamp calls $11
Flop ($47.00) 9 6 Q (2 Players)
Hapycamp bets $35.25, schuschnix calls $35.25
Turn ($117.50) T (2 Players)
Hapycamp checks, schuschnix bets $100, Hapycamp raises to $320, schuschnix folds
Final Pot
Hapycamp wins $534.50
Hey, just played this Hand a few Hours ago,

I am pretty new to PLO,a played a little bit, but not seriously, Im a LHE player but since there just aint enough action it seems like PLO would be a good choice in the Moment.
Anyway, probably this Hand is standard for many of you, but for me Im often uncertain yet as what to do.
Like on the flop, should I raise?
I decided not to, simply because I cant get enough money in and also there are a ton of cards on the turn where I really dont know what to do.
I assume most would call here w my Hand, but if Im wrong plz let me know.
On the turn, in hindsight I do find my bet pretty bad, given his ranges and that he cant fold a better Hand than I have. My thoughtprocess was sth like a free showdownbet IP unless I improve.basically I expected him to continue most strong Hands in his range(basically all straights) and I did see him play Hands like this before, altho its definately not enough of a Read,and as seen it was wrong anyway : )
Curious as to what you think, and also what would you do if he donks 100 instead of me?

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schusch 12 years, 3 months ago
I usually never play this high(fortunately given my skills) so unfortunately I cant give you too much info on opponent. he was 44/37/28.5 3bet/2.8 aggro over a very small sample,like 40Hands.
He did stack off a few hands before w Q987ds after sqeezing it in the blinds and bet/calling on KJ6 w GS+qhigh fddraw.
Augqie 12 years, 3 months ago
Opponents can expect you to cbet this flop, so when they lead, they do not want to c/c or c/r. So their hand is not so strong in general. Think about 87xx, QJ85, KJ98, 876x, AJT7, etc. Some of these hands willl call a raise. Also, if he does also lead strong hands, his strong range has very little sets in it, since he does not have many 66 combo's in his BB calling range and you hold the Q and 9. and against something like KJTx you are ahead. We should raise flop. Lastly, the way you describe this opponent/gameflow he might be spewy, so we never fold after raising (=rereraise).

And yeah, if he just calls our flop raise, the turn card coupled with agression from his side might give us a difficult decision.
jloo87 12 years, 3 months ago
flop i think its important to have good strategy to combat donk leads by raising a wider range and taking control of the hand. Given that you have a gutshot as backup I think you should be raising here to get value. With a bare top 2 I think you can argue for a call although in a btn v blind scenario I like to play more aggressively.

Turn play is quite weird imo for villain to c/r for value here since you haven't shown much strength by just calling the flop and also the T gives your perceived range a lot of mid 2p + GS or pair + OESD type hands which I think he would expect you to check back quite often instead of betting. So I think you should definitely call turn and reevaluate river.
Lenny Seward 12 years, 3 months ago
IMO, you should definitely raise OTF. You block a lot of his super strong hands and you can get value from all his draws that will continue. Also, you have two backdoor FDs that allow you to barrel a ton of turns.

As played, OTT I'd check back and decide OTR. There is no flush draw out there and the T hits all the flop wraps. Also, you're not getting value from anything worse than your hand and you can't stand a X/R.
MajaIvarsson99 12 years, 3 months ago
Yea I'd raise flop too unless I know that he leads very strong. Turn I think is probably opponent dependant but a bet/fold can't be THAT bad. It really turns your hand into a bluff though so you'd have to be prepared to bet a few rivers to get him off sets and such for this to be good I think. I'd prefer a check vs the tricky/trappy kind of player though.

Fwiw I think his line seems really dumb with almost any hand.
schusch 12 years, 3 months ago
Thanks for all the input,Im honestly surprised that so many of u would raise the flop. Simply because there are so many shitty cards on the turn and I have no idea if I wanna lay it down to a bet/3bet OTF.On the other hand what am I gonna raise if not hands like these.
I do agree with the fact that his turnraise doesnt mak much sense and Im on the nittier side aswell, I totally could have a KJxx here w a weak pair or sth like that
phil long 12 years, 3 months ago
pretty much what people said about raising the flop, and i think checking back the turn is ok. Something to think about is card removal. Given you have the top 3 cards on this board it actually weights his range way more towards having the other hands that connect with this board which would mean a straight. When people take a wierd line like this with no knowledge of how they play i would assume they have it and just fold the turn. Especially given what i said about card removal and the fact that its not exactly hard for you to have a straight here

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