50PLOz: Multiway with medium strength hand

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50PLOz: Multiway with medium strength hand

Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 (6 Players) BN: $56.89
SB: $99.43
BB: $78.75
UTG: $75.19 (Hero)
MP: $28.48
CO: $666.36
Preflop ($0.75) Hero is UTG with K 9 5 Q
Hero raises to $1.75, MP calls $1.75, CO calls $1.75, BN calls $1.75, 2 folds
Flop ($7.75) 3 Q T
Hero

From my HUD, everyone seems reg-ish with 20+/15+ stats over about 200 hundred hands. What is my strategy here?

1.bet/fold?
2.bet/raise/call?
3.check/call? (what if you check someone bets and someone calls? do you still call 3 way?)
4.check/fold, I dont think anyone is check folding this vs one bet right?
5.check/raise?

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Ephedrine10 9 years, 2 months ago

Although i really like cbetting, here i lean twoadrs checking as bet folding seems weak and u may fold a lot of equity. However ripping it it can be very bad against the NFD+something. There is some value against worse hands but surely not 3streets. There are not many turns you do not like to see and there is nothing to protect from. If after your check there is bet and raise id fold. If multiple callers i d call but careful on flush. You ll see more clearly whats going on OTT after checking flop.

lospengin 9 years, 2 months ago

Fold pre. We want to be really tight UTG and the 5 dangler just weakens this hand too much.

As played I think I bet call vs anything but potsized bet and probably bet fold to potsized. This is a pretty tough spot and it needs to be played cautiously. That being said we need to put some money into the pot to protect our equity against this many opponents. J9 J8 KJ 10xxx etc all have decent equity and we can get some of that to fold

kitsune 9 years, 2 months ago

Yea, should have folded preflop.

After some thought, I think betting to protect our equity is the better play. However, I am not convince that there is any difference when facing a raise that is pot size vs non pot size. Given the SPR, any reasonable raise will make the turn SPR <1. To me, this means their raising ranges would be the same if they raise 3x or Pot.

lospengin 9 years, 2 months ago

You're right, I wasn't considering what the SPR would be, just villains tendencies to bet pot with hands that have strong nut potential but need protection like AcXcxx. So I guess we b/f to any size?

kitsune 9 years, 2 months ago

Yea, ran the numbers on PJ giving a tight range for a reraise of Acc,QT+. It seems if short stack shove and both fold, we call. If the deep stack raises we fold. If button raises we have a slightly +EV shove.

I do think an actual raising range from the BTN would actually be stronger than Acc,QT+ and if we didnt pot cbet this spot, its actually a fold vs a BTN raise because your odds would be worse since there is less in the pot. So in practice we are only getting it in vs the short stack.

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