50 PLO uncertain about gii 3b pot
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50 PLO uncertain about gii 3b pot
CO: $59.38
BN: $86.94
SB: $48.75
BB: $53.06 (Hero)
UTG: $26.90
HJ: $87.52
BN: $86.94
SB: $48.75
BB: $53.06 (Hero)
UTG: $26.90
HJ: $87.52
Preflop
($0.75)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
9
8
A
J
UTG calls $0.50, HJ raises to $2.25, CO folds, BN folds, SB folds, Hero raises to $7, UTG folds, HJ calls $5.25
UTG calls $0.50, HJ raises to $2.25, CO folds, BN folds, SB folds, Hero raises to $7, UTG folds, HJ calls $5.25
Loose 3b pre, I know, I know :)
Flop
($15.75)
5
K
9
(2 Players)
V is aggro playing 38 30 12. I am having trouble deciding if its good or bad to get it in on a flop like the one above, where I flop mid pair and nothing else, or a non nut flush draw w/o anything else. Any general advice would be appreciated.
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pretty straightforward b/f, with a few turn barrel opportunities.
Getting it in would be pretty awesome spew. To make it simpler than it is, you would be putting in $46 to win 46+46+16= 108. So you need 46/108 = ~42% equity versus his stackoff range to get it in.
I probably just flat this pre tbh. If the 8 was a T or if it was ds then I'd be happier 3b this.
We can't gii in this spot. V range for gii gonna be wraps, pair + fd, 2 pair + fd against which your only kinda clean out is an A assuming he doesn't hold AK:cc or AK9 (which will def be in his gii range) which makes this a bet fold imo. If V plays straight fwd post we can bet fold (big) and continue on flush and straight turns if called as we hold lots of blockers and an aggro V is likely gonna be jamming a lot of that range on the flop.
Stuff we wanna gii with really depends on V stack off range but AA:cc is obv, 9TJQ:cc TJQK:cc (higher clubs), K9 etc
KC range stuff like bare NFD, 678:cc, 5678:cc, 6789:cc, bare tp with good side cards/gs etc 9TJQ and TJQK with lower clubs (but not if V jams any pair)
That sort of thing....
+ to the above. Too thin to get in, and not a good hand to c/c OOP (a weak hand as it is, and little chance of solid improvement). So by elimination, you land on b/f, c/f or c/r.
You'll have better hands to c/r semibluff, so b/f or c/f. If you c/f all hands like this, you'll be giving up way too much, so b/f.
As for the 3B, this flop scenario illustrates well why you want to avoid raggedy 3-bets OOP. Wouldn't it have been much nicer to have 2nd pair + 9-out inside wrap + BD flush instead of this? ;-) Then you could have check-called with some nut outs and things would be pretty great.
It's an OK hand to c/f from time to time if you're perceived to have a balanced c/c and c/r range
Thanks for the input, guys. I usually b/f this hand in this spot but just wanted to double check so I am not giving up too much doing so.
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