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4bet pot <1 spr check fold?

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4bet pot <1 spr check fold?

Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (6 Players) BN: $24.90
SB: $36.42
BB: $53.80
UTG: $20.96 (Hero)
MP: $25.00
CO: $29.27
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is UTG with A J 3 A
Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, BN raises to $2.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $7.85, BN calls $5.35
Flop ($16.05) 9 6 7
Hero bets $13.11 and is all in, BN calls $13.11
Turn ($42.27) 9 6 7 T
River ($42.27) 9 6 7 T 9
Final Pot BN wins and shows a full house, Nines full of Sevens.
UTG lost and shows two pair, Aces and Nines.
BN wins $40.47
Rake is $1.80

Is this a mistake on this board with 0 blockers? 3bettor is totally unknown. I assume the only possible way to find an answer is using some program which i don't have..

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M1kRo 9 years, 9 months ago

What do you think about only flatting the the preflop 3b and check flop. probably call a flop bet.

if the turn improves your equity play as fits and x/f if turn is no help.

PLO is a post flop game and playing oop is a bitch

Yumbula 9 years, 9 months ago

Personally i see the 4b as an effort to avoid the post flop game with a hand that is harder to play. We get enough of our stack in pre then we simplify our post flop decisions, the shove puts button in an awkward spot with his overs like KKxx and large rundows.

99xx, 66xx and 77xx aren't really expect to be 3b vs and UTG open alot and generally only show up when accompanying larger over and ds mid rundown kind of hands.

If we're just calling pre and checking flop we'll be facing a cbet some 80% time, we choose to peel and there isn't exactly alot of cards outside of A that improve our hand, we essentially turn out equity into a bluff catcher in that situation imo.

Check/shoving the flop is another option to try and pick up a little bit of his semi bluff range but with less than 1 PSB left i find it hard to fold.

Elterremoto 9 years, 9 months ago

Shove. He 3bet a UTG raiser. His range includes tons of high rundowns that don't hit this board.

Cthulu23 9 years, 9 months ago

If the button is competent i think this is bad, a good player would know KQJ9 KQJT hands have 34-36% equity against AA and would not 3bet a solid utg player, nor would they 3bet KK with this spr so this is rigtht up his alley. But he was unknown so whatever...

M1kRo 9 years, 9 months ago

well, depending on how good V is, his thinking could be "...hmmm, I'v got a nice mid rundown and that UTG OR is very often AAXX/KKXX so i'll 3b in pos, and see a flop, if I hit 2pr+ i'll go with it, cause he'll be sitting there with one pair"

when we 4b he says"...this guy definitely has AAXX and i heard somewhere that a mid rundown is ok against that. and now there's 64bb in the middle so i can shove or fold otf depending on how i hit.

not sure it's correct thinking by the math but i reckon it goes on that way often at these stakes.

Anyway fwiw. Love the thread/discussion overall

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