2nfd turn e bluff river

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2nfd turn e bluff river

Blinds: $0.10/$0.25 (5 Players) SB: $25.00
BB: $50.55
UTG: $29.86
CO: $35.65
BN: $27.58 (Hero)
Preflop ($0.35) Hero is BN with K 3 3 K
UTG raises to $0.85, CO calls $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, 2 folds
Flop ($2.90) 8 2 A
UTG checks, CO bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, UTG calls $1.50
Turn ($7.40) 8 2 A 9
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $5.75, UTG calls $5.75, CO calls $5.75
River ($24.65) 8 2 A 9 4
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $19.48 and is all in, UTG folds, CO calls $19.48
Final Pot CO wins and shows a straight, Ace to Five.
BN lost and shows a pair of Kings.
CO wins $61.61
Rake is $2.00

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rapezzo 10 years ago

Hi guys, sorry if i didn't comment the hand when i posted it.

My doubts are most about the action pre, the flat vs unknown is ok or the 3 bet is better? I prefer the flat because we are ip, we have a hand that play well in multiway and if or 4-bet us we are in very bad shape(and we have to fold i think).

On the turn is ok to try to steal the pot(because botr guys seams gaming weak range) with the plan to barrel on the river h, 4, 5 and k?

blablubb 10 years ago

w/o reads the call is fine. Not a hand to bloat the pot too much with. OTF you could think about raising since the betsize seems rather weak, but again it would require some sort of read. OTT trying to steal the pot is fine, but make it bigger.
OTR betting for me would require some sort of read about villains range. But you do block hearts which would lead to him having more made hands. Thus it depends if he can fold enough of them to make your bluff profitable. Seeing the hand that called you I'd take my chances versus that dude at the showdown...
The plan to fire rivers when you hit a heart or a king seems ok. Doubt that you can rep the wheelstraight all to credible so I'd rather vbet the lowset and not try to rep on fours/fives.

rapezzo 10 years ago

Ty!In the CO's shoes do you have a c/c range of Made hands ott that call shove on brick river?

I ask this because i think 3 way ott, if i was CO, when i check i quite always c/f ott or in a brick river. I think it's not a very important aspect of my Game at plo25 but maybe i have to start to have a uncapped checking range if i'll able to move up.

Sorry for the bad english and Ty!!

JimmyGlass 10 years ago

agree with blablubb,
main probles with the line 'bet turn w\ equity and then bluff vbet rivers' has some weakness as we do block hearts that shifts villains' ranges towards made hands and its tough to rep weel here credibly

rapezzo 10 years ago

Hi!! ty for the replay, i agree with most of your observation but i i have some question/doubt, i'll write it later because i need time to write in a "acceptable" english ;)

Lifted Mindset 9 years, 11 months ago

Ah yes, I did misread it lmfao. Sorry about that.

Well since it's a normal pot. His donk bet can mean anything but mostly hands he wants to get protection against. When he checks the turn to call, we can safely put him on a draw and when all the draws miss (basically). I think because we bet turn and didn't raise the flop, it's a bit confusing. It's difficult to represent anything strong and you're never getting credit for the low straight. Most hands would just check here like any low two pair or single pair of aces has showdown. A2xx, a hand you may call the flop with is probably checking here as well. I think we could go for thin value but not for most of a buy-in, only if the pot was smaller or we have good read that our villain will call us light.

But if there is a hand you want to bluff with at the lowest part of your range. This is a good hand to put in there.

rapezzo 9 years, 11 months ago

when on the turn i decided to turn my hand into a bluff i manage to bet turn and certein river also because of we are 3 handed with a pf aggressor that shows weakness and CO that tell us that dont want to play for the stack, in my opinion all his strong made hand bet again on the turn(a8xx, a9xx that turn top2 and sets) for volue and protection becouse i couldn't immagine i bet a lot of time when he c to me. I don't see a calling range on the turn that call happy a pot size bet on a brick river. I think i don't have a c/c range on the turn in his shoes, so if you want i'm happy to listen your opinion about that. I think to much on his range and not about the story i'm telling because of i confident he fold on the river all his 2 pairs considering the fact i bet in 3 way and polarize myself on the river.

He has lo card and flop w wrap w/o h, in your opinion on the river, as played, he played well checking to me?

Ty very much!!

Lifted Mindset 9 years, 11 months ago

I think you're correct about him always c-betting the top of his range on the turn. His check-call with a hand like 8Q76 with Q high flush that he wanted to c-bet to get folds but maybe picked up a low straight draw on turns. Or the hand like A1035 or AQ1010 with Q hearts. One that he wanted to c-bet vs 2 players and scoop the pot but now on the turn because there are so many draws, he might have the best hand but doesn't want to get raised because he has no clue where he would be. It's pretty hard to put him on a check/calling range though. I do agree with that. I feel like 768Q with hearts makes sense but really hard.

His check on the river is fine because so many draws missed. But also I don't think this isn't the greatest spot to bluff because of the flop A. So I would bet big for value to make it seem like I missed looking for a two pair call or pair of aces call. He will never get credit for having the wheel and because of that I feel like a bet is a better play for value. He was lucky you were at a low part of your range and bluffed when he checked because I don't think that is the best play.

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