25plo OOP, should i 4 bet or just flat?

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25plo OOP, should i 4 bet or just flat?

SB: MorganSthlm: $39.04
BB: cainy 73: $53.75
CO: sortimento: $69.69
BN: Matchal91: $24.65
Preflop ($0.35) (4 Players)
cainy 73 was dealt Q 9 J 8
sortimento raises to $0.75, Matchal91 raises to $2.25, MorganSthlm folds, cainy 73 calls $2, sortimento calls $1.50

as were both so deep should i 4 bet or just flat as it plays so well and can bring the pot 3 way?

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jonna102 11 years, 8 months ago

4b would be a fairly advanced play here, not really something you need at 25PLO.  You could do it, but you'd want to be super sharp with reading board textures and understanding opponent ranges before you do that.  Otherwise it can end up costing you a large portion of your stack.

Overcalling the 3-bet is fine.  It's not super exciting since your relative position will be bad, but you have a decent hand and it can turn out alright some of the time.  Same thing applies though, you'll need to know what to do with marginal hands oop, because you will flop a fair number of them with this hand.

Tom Coldwell 11 years, 8 months ago

I would be totally on board with a 3-bet IF I knew 3-bettor was wide here (I don't. No stats at 25PLO from a guy w/ < 100bbs means I assume he's tight and bad) and we were deeper (3-bettor isn't CO sadly). I think calling here is the better play without more to go on. This hand does prefer being HU, but a 3-way, 3-bet pot isn't gonna suck at all as our cards are big enough that we can crush some flops pretty hard and the SPR isn't so huge that we have to worry about reverse implied odds too much.

JimmyGlass 11 years, 8 months ago

but is it really kind of mandatory call here? are we hitting often enough w\ single-suited gapper?

if they both are really bad or at least sb is 80\50 brainless maniac - i would definitely call, but otherwise hand+relative position doesnt look THAT huge for me 

Tom Coldwell 11 years, 8 months ago
This hand is pretty damned strong though. QJ98ss does so well versus the overpairs AND can dominate other rundowns in enough spots that I'd be pretty sad to fold it. Yes, our position isn't ideal, but nonetheless, this is more than strong enough to call here (if you aren't calling this, you probably aren't really defending BB versus a 3-bet ever which is probably a mistake in itself, although not one villains will exploit at these stakes).


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