200plo hu, call set on flush river?
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200plo hu, call set on flush river?
SB: $572.55
SB raises to $6, Hero calls $4
So far in the match Villian has caught me bluffing a fair bit. A few times I've CR'ed flop and ended up c/folding turns and rivers or showing stuff like mid pair + gushot at showdown. He's called me down with ATJ4 on AQT34 when both flush draws missed and I was FOS. His image of me isn't of a fish but he definitely thinks I'm over aggressive / FOS.
Am I stretching my imagination to think he can be bluffing often enough on this river? I mean its a great card for him to bluff if he doesn't have it, but also hits his range somewhat hard. Given my image and that he has seen me CR bluff quite a few flops I think he's more likely to check back his mid flush draws with nothing else on the flop because he doesn't want to get blown off them. I also think for this same reason he's likely to play his Kxxx hands this way, especially something like KQJ and KJT thinking he can induce me to spazz so they are more in his river range than usual.
Thoughts? Sorry if this is a super standard spot, I'm new to HUPLO.
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shoving based on what you wrote in the 1st paragraph
and hoping he calls with specifically AK?
If Villian have enough KJT ,KQJ ,QJT, K2, JT92, QT92 type hands with no real SD value +++++++++ he´s capable of turning them into bluffs ++++++++++++ he checks back at least some naked mid FD´s ------------> calling is ok, but very thin.
Couple of other things going into my mind:
99 has nearly the same hand strenght like low flushes here++++++++ he can 3b the flop with some high FD´s with something else to go with+++++++++ there are sometimes people checking back river with LOW Flushes beeing afraid of getting trapped.
shoving seems quite ambitious here..
we are trying to make flushes fold which seems too unlikely given hero´s image and the fact that this river card makes other flop+turn holdings like K9, sets more likely..
for the question is between fold and call.
I don´t really understand why you expect him to check back a lot of KQJ which is quite stong here and can stand a c/r?
For me the river betsize is a important factor. yes it makes sense for him to pot his unlikely nuts (or maybe he is the type who bets samll to induce..?). So the question is where is the borderline between this polarizing betsize and smaller ones / check backs ?
My guess is the J or T high flush.
another point: would you - with your image - check a flush in this spot? obviously if not he could bet (big) with even lower flushes and without fear to get c/raised.
I also agree that some mid flsuhes get checked back on the flop.
Given all that I think I can find a call here
homer - My apologies, i wasn't 100% clear in the OP. I expect him to play hands like KQJ, KJT the way he did in the actual hand, b/call flop, call turn because he expects me to be bluffing a fair amount and those are reasonable hands to call down / induce me to bluff with. I'd also expect him to turn a decent amount of them into bluffs on the river to get me to fold either a legit hand like the one I have or some random hand with an ace that will win at showdown if he checks.
I think I would check flushes 7-8 high and worse, would definitely shove the Q, J and maybe even T high flush a good percentage of the time.
I think the Ac on the river is very significant compared to say 3c. It takes out a lot of FD combos for him to call twice. It would call on the Ac river and fold on 3c river.
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