200bb big bluff vs 2villains
Posted by Mahowny
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200bb big bluff vs 2villains
SB: $348.40
BB: $116.70
UTG: $53.99
HJ: $191.13 (Hero)
CO: $101.53
UTG folds, Hero raises to $3, CO calls $3, BN calls $3, SB calls $2.50, BB folds
What do you think about this hand ?
Villains are just tight, aggressive regs on 0.5/1 ZOOM (20/15/3 kind of stats).
First I'm not sure about turn call. Do you think it's profitable ? I didn't make the math but that would be interesting how minimum we have to bet on flush river to make this call EV+.
And second question what about river bluff ? I think bettor almost always has KK but since he didnt 3bet pf I don't think so he has many KKAQ hands. The caller's range is more mystery but I would say something like AQT, JJ, QJT + some flush draw. The key factor though for me was that he didn't bet out river. With so much in the pot I thought he's betting AQ like 80% at least to get value from Q9. I don't think 0.5/1 zoom is aggressive enough that he might anticipate bluff.
What are your toughts ?
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What were your reasons for not cbetting? Turn call is extremely standard as played. I guess I don't mind the river bluff with sb checking, though still likely close
I generally tend to shy away from bluffs like this. As you said, even when villain has KK, he will have some KKAQ combos. If you are really sure that bettor has KK 100% of the time then I do like it still. Not sure how you are able to narrow his rane down so strictly, but if that's the case then I guess when SB checks he wont have it so... yea. the more I think about it the more I like it. The fact that you have both A and 9 blockers helps your case.
Flops kind of debatable. You can't really b/ca that hand, but it is a pretty good flop for your range, so it's one that you might like to cbet a bit more liberally.
T and R are good.
I think this is a very nice spot for the river bluff, but I also think that you wouldn't be in this spot if you c bet the flop.
think flop line is clearly best; b/f would be disaster and b/c doesn't usually work out too well, especially being oop to 2 of the players. b/shove is absurd. so yea checking and taking it from there seems clearly better than those options.
turn standard.
river, i think this is a great bluff that you're rarely able to make. you have the A and 9 blocker so this is one of the few hands you can make this play with imo.
okey it seems like flop came up to be an issue here. Do you guys think that cbetting vs 3other players here is best ? What if we face a raise ? bet/fold ? bet/call ?
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