1/2plo 6max flop nut fd,flop plan

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1/2plo 6max flop nut fd,flop plan

BN: $488.14
SB: $98.20
BB: $490.87
UTG: $200
HJ: $285.30
CO: $291.87 (Hero)
Preflop ($3.00) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt K A 7 Q
UTG folds, HJ raises to $6, Hero raises to $21, BN folds, SB folds, BB folds, HJ calls $15
Flop ($45.00) 6 2 5 (2 Players)
HJ checks
I think I can flat or 3b this hand pf,and hj is little loose,so I 3bet, I think it is ok.what do you think the flop plan?I am not sure how to play,bf/bc/check,3 option,which one better?

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jonna102 11 years, 11 months ago
I think this is a fairly good spot for a delayed cbet. You could cbet the flop, but it's kinda awkward when you get raised. It's also possible that your opponent may fold some flush draws on the flop, but if they hit on the turn you might get a bet or two out of him.

Preflop you can either flat or 3-bet, I think both are fine. This hand plays well multiway, but it's obviously strong enough to 3-bet also. It depends more on whether you want to invite later players into the hand or not.
bogglor 11 years, 11 months ago
Against passive players, bet/fold.
Against unknowns, standard regs, sometimes bet, sometimes check and delayed cbet.
Against aggressive or good players, favor checking since they'll realize this board doesn't hit your 3bet range and you're deep enough for them to C/R you fairly liberally.
Against spewtards you might even bet/call if they'd get it in with like an open ender and a 8 hi flush draw. Generally, I like to have any pair here at least but the fact that you have 3 overcards means even one of them might be good enough if you hit.
CosmicTeapot 11 years, 10 months ago
If he's even remotely aggressive then bet-3bet is by far the superior play. We want him attacking this board lightly since it whiffs our perceived range. We're really not worried about any hand since it's also extremely rare for him to have a set or 34 as it is for us.

EDIT: Board read fail on my part, I thought we had AA w NFD, not NFD + overs. I still like c-betting because of immediate fold equity. We also have a wrap blocker which is not insignificant. Getting check-raised is pretty gross, but can't see it happening that much based on the board and his range. We're also deep enough for him to have a check-raise bluffing range here too if he's at all aggressive, seeing as we should be whiffing this board a lot as well.
Nom de Guerre 11 years, 10 months ago

you don't say too much about the villain, apart from the fact that he's slightly loose.

given stack sizes i would lean to checking flop.  you don't have enough room to maneuver post flop to bet call any sizable check raise the villain might throw at you, and your fold equity on future streets diminishes.  against a 'normal' check raise range i think you're at best (roughly) a bit shy of 50/50 against a wrap or a big dog against a set.


ZzzzzzzzZZzzzzzzz 11 years, 10 months ago

I don't like 3betting this hand 150 deep on these positions unless villain is a donk/bad. 

[Speaking about which I dont understand whats goin on here with so many people posting hands without ANY info on their opponents and expecting...I dont even know what they are expecting.] 

But getting back to it, If hes a donk hes not going to CR light so you might cbet to just try to pick it up, if you get called youre most often against a semibad hand and you still have plenty outs and room for barrelling. 

If he is a reg you should know hes ranges and have some reads before you ever 3 bet this hand. Whats best on this flop will always depend on that.

But generally i dont like checking back here since youre turning your hand totally face up and cannot play comfortably against his aggression after you give up the initiative. Checking back here might lead to more/bigger mistakes on future streets than you could ever make on the flop.

OnceItRun 11 years, 10 months ago

Pre is ok against random villains, although it sucks more when you get 4b as opposed to the same spot at 100bb.

At 100bb I'm bet/calling this all day as we have so much fold equity either on the flop or the turn with any hand and we are doing well enough once we get c/r against all but the tightest of ranges (and the players that play this tight don't connect with this board almost always). Here, though, I can consider bet/folding or checking back depending on villain, which is the key thing in this hand - how wide is he opening and how light does he stack in this spot. My default here in a vaccuum would be to check back and proceed from there, if I cbet I'd hate getting c/r at this stack depth.

 

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