1/2 weird spot

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1/2 weird spot

friend sent me this hand thought it was pretty interesting.
for some reason the HH won't convert so i'll just do my best.

not a lot of hands with villain but in limited time haven't seen anything interesting. seems to be std reg.

6 max effective stacks $630 (~300bb)

hero opens AQT2ds $5.33 MP
villain calls next to act
button calls

flop As6c6s

hero bets $9.49 (~1/2 pot)
villain calls
button folds

turn Qd (As6s6cQd)

hero bets $18.98 (~1/2 pot)
villains raises to $56.00
hero calls

river 6h (As6s6cQd6h)
hero checks
villain bets $137

thoughts on turn and river obv.

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Tom Coldwell 12 years, 3 months ago
I'd definitely just fold the turn here. If you're behind, it's WAY behind and I don't really expect a standard reg who hasn't done anything interesting that we've seen to float the flop with another player still to act and then bluff-raise the turn after you fire a second barrel.

I would probably fire the second barrel just like you did to force villain to muck (or pay for) spades with check/fold my second preference (he's unlikely to fire his Axxx hands and I have no intention of c/c, c/guessing the river those times he might have spades). This second barrel is, in my mind, a clear bet/fold though. If called, I kinda hate life, but would almost certainly c/f the river because I feel it's unlikely that someone who had spades and called twice would think it's a great bluffing spot given we can so easily be checking to snap him off in his mind.

As played, I muck the river without any concern. If a guy we haven't seen be creative took this line with a bluff, fair play to him, he earned the fold with the image he's cultivated imo.
xaxa 12 years, 3 months ago
meh he either has the 6 or KsJsTx I don't like the betsize on Flop & Turn. I'de bet slightly more on each street. go with ur gut...
Phil Galfond 12 years, 3 months ago
So, the main hand that makes sense to me is AA6x, which for many obvious reasons is very rare. I'm trying to decide if he'd play AAxx like this, or if he sensed weakness in the turn bet and might play 6xxx like this. I think normally it would be a bit of an overplay on the turn.

Honestly, I'm very confused and I often end up calling when that happens, but my track record in spots like this is pretty poor. I find that it's much more likely that they just have it than that they made the super weird hero play.
homer5554 12 years, 3 months ago
bit hard to comment without knowing the opponent tendencies preflop and in general but I give it a try. 0815 player at that limit is valueraising at turn here almost only AAxx, QQxxss and A6....obv. we have an ace and a Q blocker card which make these combinations not super likely but I think with his line he can wrap all 3 value hands...a weakish AAxx hand which he didn*t want to 3bet preflop, QQxxss hand which he just called preflop and on the flop (because he had a flush to go with and don't want to fold to a half posize bet) and of course A6, which just slowplayed the flop and hoped to get a 2nd barrel from you...I would personally dont give him much 6s here for a value raise, so in my opinion he has these 3 combinations or a bluff (cause he thought you are weak here)

I would fold here, but if I call the turn I would definetely fold the river, cause I don*t see him 2nd bluff barreling on the river here
phil long 12 years, 3 months ago
yeh when you include some AAxx AA6x AQQx, QQxxss and overplays of 6x think he has one of those hands enough by the river compared to the hero bluff. Even if these hands are unlikely and sometimes discounted think they outway his air by enough, as dont think there are that many hands that bluff this turn, and then further discount that set of hands for the times he gives up river
phil long 12 years, 3 months ago
I actually think this hand is more interesting on different cards when i think his bluffing frequency changes and more value hands are likely, what would people do on other rivers

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