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1/2 plo 3bet pot multiple decisions

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1/2 plo 3bet pot multiple decisions

BB: $171.21
HJ: $420.86
CO: $201.58 (Hero)
BN: $158.68
SB: $365.12
Preflop ($3.00) (5 Players)
Hero was dealt 4 3 7 9
HJ folds, Hero raises to $6, BN raises to $21, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $15
Flop ($45.00) 6 Q 5 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BN checks
Turn ($45.00) 6 Q 5 T (2 Players)
Hero checks, BN bets $35.59, Hero calls $35.59
River ($116.18) 6 Q 5 T 2 (2 Players)
Hero bets $113.38
Villains is a good regular, playing up to 5/10 and not always buying fullstack. I have him at 26/21 @1.6k hands, btn 3bet 11%, cbet in 3bp - 76%. Generally plays strong non-tricky poker and bets wide for value and stacks wide in 3b pots.

Pre could be kind of loose, w/e.

My plan on the flop was to just c/r pot as he cbets pretty wide and I was sure at that time that he would cbet his entire range. Alas, he didn't.

Questions are about turn and river play:
I could see all options on the turn, as I was pretty confused by his flop check. Bet/folding seems a reasonable option as I don't have a hand and my outs are less clear. Check/calling is the line I hated that time as I didn't have a specific plan on the river, but looking back I can probably bluff some cards that don't hit me. Check/raising would be kind of spewy if he shows up with KQJx/QJ9x etc, which are in my opinion his most likely hands.

River plays is very dependent on what I should be doing on the turn...as played do you think I should valuebet against his range with a perceived missed draw, or I should let him bluff himself with a draw.

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TJ Serdar 12 years, 2 months ago
Yeah I'm not sure how to play turn in this spot either. Betting and getting blown off your equity sucks so much, but ch/ca seems really tough to pull off without having some type of lead bluffing strategy on rivers.

I think I like your river lead as I would expect him to call wider than he would value bet, and I'm not sure he can really have much air he'd want to keep betting with here, since so much of it has SD value.
Maikel1983 12 years, 2 months ago
Is this not a fold pre-flop vs 80bb stack OOP, we are not making much money by calling OOP. I know u mention it.

I agree, about the river that we should expect him to call wider than value bet. However, how often are we bluffing in this spot. Most stronger hand will ch-jam the turn ? T987 with clubs, AKJT, will lead some stronger range as well on turn.

2,3,7,8 those cards gives hero straight, which are like 8 clean outs, whereby 4 of those cards will complete the FD, than we are basically lost. Since villain could have a flush.

8/44 ~ 18% of the time will hit our clean outs. Hero, doesn't have like direct implied odds to call, so if we call Hero has to bluff some rivers, the only problem is I don't see how we can bluff some rivers. Given villain's range.
Girts Sprancis 12 years, 2 months ago
On dryish flop like this with SPR 3 villain would likely cbet/call all of his overpair and Qxxx hands, so we should weight his range towards hands that he didn't want to cbet/fold, most likely hands with Q as pivot card or rundowns +gutter (KJT9, 89TJ, AKJT, etc), so turn/river should give him 2nd pair at best as SD value. That said, villain's bluff seems unlikely anyway, since he doesn't really represent anything, so I agree with river bet. I would like a 1/2 pot bet better myself tho.
OnceItRun 12 years, 2 months ago
If my river plan is to jam any non-club turn lower than 9 and probably any Q, does it make it better for me to check/call turn or bet turn myself?

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