$1/2 Bovada Bluffcatching line
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$1/2 Bovada Bluffcatching line
Hey guys,
This hand was on anonymous poker on bovada. I didn't have a ton of hands at the table w/ villain and don't use a HUD in these games, but know that villain seemed fairly competent and aggro, probably the most competent villain at this table (note- HH shows HUD stats, but I do not have HUD active while playing. I do track hands for review purposes):
iPoker - $2 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
CO: 212.92 BB (VPIP: 44.30, PFR: 29.11, 3Bet Preflop: 9.38, Hands: 82)
BTN: 10.35 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (SB): 125.23 BB
BB: 99.83 BB (VPIP: 34.69, PFR: 20.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 49)
UTG: 48 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3h Ad Kc Ah
fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, CO calls 7 BB
Flop : (21 BB, 2 players) 5d 6h 4d
Hero checks, CO bets 13 BB, Hero calls 13 BB
Turn : (47 BB, 2 players) 5c
Hero checks, CO bets 31 BB, Hero calls 31 BB
River : (109 BB, 2 players) Tc
Hero checks, CO bets 54.5 BB, Hero calls 54.5 BB
CO shows Jc 2s 9c As (One Pair, Fives)
(Pre 36%, Flop 15%, Turn 8%)
Hero shows 3h Ad Kc Ah (Two Pair, Aces and Fives)
(Pre 64%, Flop 85%, Turn 93%)
Hero wins 217 BB
So basically, I felt that it was probably likely that villain's range is weighted toward high rundowns and overpairs, and that villain's line here is weighted heavily towards bluffs. I don't think villains preflop range flops a straight OR set all that often, and think that straights probably pot control turn and/or river when board pairs given my x/c line. I decided on the turn that i was going to x/c turn and river almost always as a bluff catch. TBH i have no idea if this play by me is horrendously bad or really good. I'm new to PLO and dabbling in the games at this point, coming from a primarily NLHE MTT background. What are your thoughts on the spot as played?
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hi! If he is a competent player he will know that your SB 3betting range has around zero boats on the turn, so he will not pot control. On the other hand, he will be paid of more often from KK/AA. I dunno for the whole line honestly... these multi street calldowns work less often than you expect. I'd really love to see a video about 3 bet pots OOP as the PFR, coz these are spots that I struggle as well
Some early PG video on essential I guess just briefly but effectivly covered this spot. All he did was 3bettin oop and check /fold flop - nothing exciting but the very vital lesson is that players tend to feel supposed to c-bet or x/call anytime as if they were entitled to win the hand bc they started with a 3bet. Not thinking this way is a simple but powerful shift in playing the game, I suppose.
I think this is mostly a guessing game as to how often villain will barrel off with air. You hold the Ad and no blockers to value hands, so if you're calling down here you're basically saying you think villain is going nuts bluffing way too often -- which will certainly be the case for some.
Your play is definitely over-defending. Even if your 3betting range is only AA, blocking 5,6,7 or 8 rather than blocking Ad is much better for bluff-catching. The way to counter-attach his strategy is by 3betting more connected hands and check-call this flop with 2p or straights. The total pot is way too big compared to the flop pot size or turn pot size so we don't need to defend this much.
I am folding on the turn with this exact hand as my default.
x/fold flop. Case solved. He must be randomly bluffing like a madman to call more than once. He could have flopped so strongly so often that just giving up flop is fine.
Is this a standard 3b for you guys?
- We are more than 100bb deep so the spr is a bit deeper (5.5), which is better for IP
- Hand doesn't mind if the BB flats behind, as we flop top sets and nut flush draws
- We block a K and therefore the more likely hand to 4b us lite- KK
- We get a very profitable spot on the off chance BB squeezes
Thanks
"- We block a K and therefore the more likely hand to 4b us lite- KK " I just can not get my head around this. And just for the record - almost no KK is 4betting there light especially since its anonymous tables, villain IP is supposed to be decent (and he's IP), and SB should fold 95% if not 100% (unlike PG grudgingly does in every few videos).
To the question: 3betting is acceptable, mostly reducing SPR and making pot go HU. You might only want to setmine with AAT3r e.g. And yes, hand does slightly mind BB coming along. However this "I felt that it was probably likely" is absolutely meaningless, as CO range has just as many mid cards as it does high ones (we block AAK, and ABBx e.g. makes a decent part of his Co opening range. Which we block. x/f OTT/OTF is your choice.
I will say that against the player population on Bovada 1/2 I don't think this is a profitable calldown. In my experience, most players are massively underbluffing with a few massively overbluffing, and not a whole lot in between, so reads are very valuable.
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