10PLO: Just a Simple Line Check
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10PLO: Just a Simple Line Check
Poker Stars $10.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
UTG: $11.34
Hero (MP): $18.65
CO: $10.00
BTN: $46.88
SB: $9.65
BB: $19.10
CO posts a big blind ($0.10)
Pre Flop: ($0.25) Hero is MP with K
J A Q
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.45, CO raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.05
Flop: ($4.65) 4 A
6 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $4.00, BTN folds, Hero raises to $16.45, CO calls $4.50 all in
Turn: ($21.65) T (2 players - 1 is all in)
River: ($21.65) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)
CO is 30/13 8.0 3bet after only 67 hands. So his 3bet stat isn't really reliable. But my thought was he posted then 3bet, I was like "Really? In your first hand?"
BU however cold called the 3bet. He is an aggro spewy LAG who has been hitting a lot. He is 94/44 after 26 hands or so and gets it in a lot on the flop.
So this is where it gets interesting. Should I have 4bet preflop? We are deep and I want to get more money in and build a side pot vs the BU.
But what stopped me is, if we 4bet and CO 5bets allin, we're fucked vs AA**. And there are no assurances that BU will come along. So what do you guys think?
On the flop we have TPTK + some outs to two pair, but I hate the fact that it's two tone. Anyway what do you think of the check/shove on the flop? Villain unlikely has AA**, I think. And is the SPR low enough to justify in getting it in?
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So I did some simulations on PPT with our hand vs different hands and ranges. This one hand stood out:
Just wow, I didn't realize an FD + a couple of backdoor outs have good equity here.
Put top pair + FD his equity goes up to 60, and more so if he really did have AA**.
It's a very marginal spot. And I don't think villain will cb vs 2 opponents without at least a pair + an FD.
This is a poorly played hand.
X/ fold here. Not many players should have a bet folding range here in a 3bet pot. You can discuss whether you want to 4bet pre.
This is the initial assumption I had. But then an argument can be made for shoving. The SPR on the flop is only 2, so we need only 40% equity on the flop to get it in.
Also villain just sat down, and posted then 3bet. He has an 8% 3bet, we have an Ace and there's an Ace on the board making it less and less that villain has AA**.
But yeah, that doesn't change the fact that it's a marginal spot. I guess there are arguments for both shoving and folding.
" the spr on the flop is only 2, so we need only 40% equity on the flop to get it in." 40% is the best that can happen, often it is lower than that. And I never heard of SPR = EQ equations. When a play is close to break even, I would fold rather than GII. PLO has enough variance in it by the nature of the game and it favors us , the skilled player to reduce it.
It's been mentioned lots of times in the instrctional videos. The lower the SPR, the wider we can shove as there's already too much money in the pot to make a shove justifiable. And in some cases it would be a mistake or -EV to fold, like in some 4bet pot scenarios.
But in this spot, yeah... It's marginal and folding is better.
or -EV to fold Not true. Folding is always 0 EV. Dead money is dead money. OFc we can stack off easier (that doesnt mean we have to). But with that in mind, we could play a style where we 3bet and 4bet any hand and GII with every marginal piece. Would that be a good stratetgy?
On the flop, yes. Overall, no.
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