10/20 Deep. Line checkup

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10/20 Deep. Line checkup

Blinds: $10.00/$20.00 (4 Players) BB: $2983.79
CO: $4647.00 (Hero)
BN: $7881.00
SB: $4012.50
Preflop ($30.00) Hero is CO with Q A T T
Hero raises to $80.00, BN raises to $286.00, 2 folds, Hero calls $206.00
Flop ($618.00) 3 2 J
Hero checks, BN bets $380.00, Hero calls $380.00
Turn ($1378.00) 3 2 J 9
Hero checks, BN bets $1080.00, Hero calls $1080.00
River ($3538.00) 3 2 J 9 7
Hero bets $2897.00 and is all in, BN calls $2897.00
Final Pot CO lost and shows a pair of Tens.
BN wins and shows a straight, Seven to Jack.
BN wins $9330.50
Rake is $1.50

Wanted to see what u guys have to say, am i out of line here on any street?

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spassewr 9 years, 10 months ago

Id fold the flop, i think we need a great read to get away with a flop float (some1 that one-n-dones way too much, or bet-folds turn too much or has very face up sizing). Also dont think we need to defend flop, but this might make a good xr candidate.

Except for that i like the play from turn and onwards

midori 9 years, 10 months ago

I think flop and turn are okay, as spassewr said above I'd consider x/r'ing flop as well although I don't like to do it too often when I'm deep and I can't rep too wide of a value range on the flop.

On the river I'm kind of torn between bluffing and not bluffing. On the one hand, I don't think you can have a TON of straights because they would have to be T8 with pairs on flop/turn, and they are few combos. On the other hand, you are repping them pretty well, and you don't rep much bluff because the flop was rainbow and you probably won't bluff like this very often with hands like weak Jx, 543, etc.

Any reads on villain would help, I think?

Lifted Mindset 9 years, 10 months ago

Yo Leo Nordin,

Once we get to the river I think we should be bluffing. Obviously we have no showdown and we have more hands that hit this river range than he does in his 3-bet range. (Depending on his 3b % though). Also we have blockers, which is the main reason we will now bluff.

I really would like to know that he is a player who is more scared of the nuts and has a more narrow 3-bet range so we know we have more fold equity when we float. I don't think he expects too many bluffs here but you can still have just a pair of jacks and realize they're no good by the river and have a range advantage here.

I think from his point of view, he's wondering what hands have 10-8-J-x that you wouldn't 4-bet. But I still think it hits your range too hard and his range not hard enough, therefore I would bluff lead this.

Chase Steely 9 years, 10 months ago

Easy river bluff spot along with having the blockers your turn SPR leverages him into checking back a lot of his 8Txx 3betting combos to see a free river and avoid being ck raised off a lot of equity. I don't think we can fold the flop we have way too many good turns for our hand T,Q, any heart, A we could also donk lead some 4,5,6's on the turn that would make us super difficult to play against I mean we do have 456x combos and seeing as tho our c/o range isn't as tight as other positions and more of those 456x combos weighted higher after our flop ck call. We also do win when he has air by bluffing this river which I have to think is at least 5-10% depending on ur read on his aggression basically on all streets. -Well played hand

Quietly 9 years, 10 months ago

I think calling the flop is out of line and as played to the turn calling is also out of line. As played to the river I think the lead is good.

I think you can consider check raising this hand on the flop if you want to continue. I probably wouldn't c/r with this particular hand but I can see a scenario where it might be reasonable to do so.

GameTheory 9 years, 10 months ago

If you believe that calling the flop is optimal, you are kind of forced to take this line on the turn and river.

Your flop call means that you put your opponent on a wide range that has to shut down frequently after you float the flop. Against this wide range you should be able to call again once you turn one of your backdoordraws.

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