$100 zoom, flopped 2nd set + NFD
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$100 zoom, flopped 2nd set + NFD
BN: $94.90 (Hero)
SB: $100.50
BB: $101
UTG: $476.97
HJ: $60.83
CO: $167.51
SB: $100.50
BB: $101
UTG: $476.97
HJ: $60.83
CO: $167.51
Preflop
($1.50)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
A
8
8
2
UTG raises to $3, HJ folds, CO folds, Hero calls $3, SB folds, BB folds
UTG raises to $3, HJ folds, CO folds, Hero calls $3, SB folds, BB folds
Villain was Brazilian and wasn't Urubu. No other reads. Blinds didn't seem too loose, which is not surprising given this is Zoom. I thought I could call here with a hand that plays okayish multiway, maybe this is a bit too loose?
Flop
($7.50)
T
8
5
(2 Players)
UTG bets $5
This is one of those spots where I am not quite sure of what my best play is.
If I were OOP, I would x/r quite often so that I can nullify my positional disadvantage, as well as charging his draws or worse hands. When I am IP though, I tend to call pretty much always with various types of draws, and while that works fine because I can rep a wider range while keeping the pot small (and SPR large), sometimes I feel like I am missing value, or the optimal line, by doing so.
In general, would you have a raising range on this flop at all when the PFR c-bets into us? I guess TT/88 and maybe T8 can be raised for value, but if we were to raise those hands, what bluffs/semi-bluffs do we have in our range? And with good/decent draws, would there be merits for raising? I kind of think there should be some, but can't really explain very well. I guess making myself tough to play against would be one reason, and taking initiative would be another, so that we can sometimes bet and other times check back on various turns, etc. Beyond that, uhh, I don't know.
Help me, guys! :)
If I were OOP, I would x/r quite often so that I can nullify my positional disadvantage, as well as charging his draws or worse hands. When I am IP though, I tend to call pretty much always with various types of draws, and while that works fine because I can rep a wider range while keeping the pot small (and SPR large), sometimes I feel like I am missing value, or the optimal line, by doing so.
In general, would you have a raising range on this flop at all when the PFR c-bets into us? I guess TT/88 and maybe T8 can be raised for value, but if we were to raise those hands, what bluffs/semi-bluffs do we have in our range? And with good/decent draws, would there be merits for raising? I kind of think there should be some, but can't really explain very well. I guess making myself tough to play against would be one reason, and taking initiative would be another, so that we can sometimes bet and other times check back on various turns, etc. Beyond that, uhh, I don't know.
Help me, guys! :)
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I guess you could semibluff with AhQdQc9c, but I don't think you would with that hand so you're pretty much raising to get it in on this flop. I don't think it's that bad. Just hope he has KKJT+fdraw and get it in.
PF call is fine, since we are in position and going to crush the flop of get away quick.
I think that if I was going to check back a set it would be set+NFD. However I think that we could raise a range like TT,88, QJT9-T987. Probably add in some NFD+GS+P(lots of my GS should have a pair here) into the semi bluffing range since If I have the Ah in my hand, villain is going to have a range that is not going to be able to stand up to a lot of pressure as the board runs out (this is why I would be tempted to have the set+NFD in my check range a portion of the time).
Our raising range does not need to be crazy here, but think with the flop texture and a reasonable UTG range we can start to set up good turn and river bluffs by raising, and we will have enough strong hands in our range, and our semibluff range will be pretty strong.
FWIW I lol'd at Brazilian and not Urubu, who knew more than two played, got love that guy though.
In game he c-bet, so did you mean you were going to just flat call with set+NFD?
I agree with what you said, especially the having Ah part.
Yeah sorry did mean flat call.
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