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Having fun playing micro cash games. Finding that the sets that I win are usually low yielding perhaps 12 - 15 points because as a beginner I usually play a conservative game based on not fouling rather than gambling to make Fantasyland. I never mind when I see an opponent stick a high pair right up front on the first pull with low cards underneath because I know they have a good chance of fouling. What I find though is that if the player is good even if they are agro over time they win more big sets that make up for the small ones that they give up by fouling. If I win 4 sets for 40 points but they win 2 for 80 points they come out ahead.

It would be great to have a vid that shows how to take calculated risks to improve this. I know each situation is different and much of the advantage comes from just setting your hand properly from the bottom up but I've been losing to players who seem to play from the top down. Some one in another post mentioned charts that give you the odds. Is this the key?

I may not even be asking the right thing. Really only been playing for about couple of weeks. The only thing that has been saving me is that I set Fantasyland really well because I had an old Ipad app that only allowed me to do that and corrected me if I didn't do it perfectly but you couldn't play on it. But you still have to get there!

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mrfish 10 years, 3 months ago

It will be nice to have more thoughts and ideas but we are on our own when making decisions of what to do especially with our first draw, We should be very careful when we hear somebody who claims he knows the perfect set up on some difficult hands and on some deceptively easy ones, is likely he is wrong because nobody can prove anything,(oops i argued that my set up is best many times) everything is a hunch as in collective intelligence decision making system.
The other think is a question, how do you define a good player?
I played about 20 opponents so far and find a collective mistake people make is when they don’t have wining more points as primary goal.because is deceptively easy to think that going for fantasy land is the way to score more points most of the time.finding the real line is hard if not impossible.

So_Nitty 10 years, 3 months ago

I think perhaps people that learned to play regular OFC first have an advantage because they really had to think about each card and how the hand would develop. It seems too difficult to me though

mrfish 10 years, 3 months ago

It seems difficult because it is a difficult game.
Whoever think is easy is going to loose bad in this game.
I think you are on the wright track to learn this game my friend provided you love the game.
Is one of the best games invented lately it might even surpass some other poker games very soon, half of poker players play it already.
I hope other people jump in to this discussion and it would be nice to know what our poker pros think about the game,they might have a very valuable different view.

So_Nitty 10 years, 3 months ago

It is fun to play....I know even when I feel exhausted after a cash grind or mtt session if I fire up an OFC table it feels fresh and interesting like something completely different. It just seems to depend SO MUCH on the cards and the sequence in which they are dealt though. You can't choose just not to play a bad hand. Over time the good gambly players seem to make the big scores even if they take small losses.

I'm conflicted!

mrfish 10 years, 3 months ago

It might even be such a good game it gives people different kind of feelings all the time.
I some times feel hopeless ,no matter what i do or could have done i get scooped and crushed by big and small hands for what it seems extended periods of time.
But other times i feel in control everything comes based on my plan, it must feel crushing in the other side now to my opponent whoo is usually one of my good poker friends.
Like all poker,some times we are the windshield other times we are the bug.
Gambly is undefined, whats the right amount of gamble to qualify, it could be what we think it is.

So_Nitty 10 years, 2 months ago

I was watching the PCA live coverage yesterday and Shaun Deeb was talking about OFC and saying that there is no edge.....only huge variance. He was laughing but I think he was serious too. It's a fun gambly game. There is situational strategy though for sure. I think Jen has taught us to make the most of slender edges like solid initial sets, double checking before confirming our sets, considering opponents hands and live outs, typical strength of each line and taking only reasonable risks. Also when to go for it and when to play safe in mtts.

This gave me shortcuts to competence or I would still be getting thrashed at the lowest levels. If you study her vids it powers you through the learning curve. In the end making slightly better decisions at each stage has to give you a little advantage

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