I'm learning a bit about I.C.M (independent chip model), and i think the pros know about this, so i want do discuss the calculations and the effect of the calculations. If somebody is specialized in this would be pretty nice.
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Chris Morgan12 years, 2 months agoICM calculations are very long and drawn out to do by hand (and impossible to do while at the table). It is better to buy software that will do this for you that will allow you to study away from the table. The best program out there is Sit n Go Wizard. It will allow you to put in your bubble situations where you can vary the stack sizes of yourself and each opponent to see what hands you would +EV push / fold with. Or if you have Holdem Manager, it will read your hand history and tell you if your decision to push or fold was correct. I would also check out Collin Moshman's Sit 'n Go Strategy and Secrets of Sit 'n' Gos: Winning Strategies for Single-table Poker Tournaments by Phil Shaw. Both of these books are great for Sit n Go's and they both go in to detail to understand ICM. I highly recommend both. Good luck.
weezy12 years, 2 months agoI've played like 50,000 too many Superturobs. ICM is beautiful because on the surface, it's as straight forward as poker could be [ie: push or fold] and it's just mathematically correct. However, diving deeper, the flaws become shockingly apparent. I'd be happy to address any of your thoughts or questions, as I find the best way to learn is with questions from interested peers... Is there anything specific you would like to know?
IrishLuck77712 years, 1 month agoWouldnt proper use of icm make super turbos profitable? you make it sound like you are losing because of it
weezy12 years, 1 month agoI would have to say that the way ICM measures your stack (aka equity) is a bit wacky at times. Most of the time it works fine, however, it overvalues small stacks, and for superturobs, your chance of coming back from 1-2bbs is rather slim. The other flaw isn't so much to do with ICM rather SngWiz. Its calling and shoving ranges are rather unrealistic. Its hand range scale will have people shoving with A2o over KT and such, and that is not how people play the games.
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