It really depends what cards you have.

If I'm reading this correctly, I think you have to call in this situation. You paired your ace on the flop and also have a gut-shot. You bet $30 after villain checks, where in a situation like this, I would bet a little more than $30 because, maybe $40, there's a couple clubs out there and you wanna protect your straight draw just in case you happen to get sucked out on if villain holds two clubs in his hand, but villain calls your $30 bet anyway. Villain bets $100 on turn - I would be thinking at this point, he might have an A high of some sort, possibly even calling on the button for $20 with AJoff in the beginning he could have done. Your re-raise was decent, but I think $300 or even $350 would be better, just to protect the straight. When villain 3 bets you, I'm still thinking at this point he's trying to protect his ace high. After his re-raise 3 bet, I think I would have shoved instead of just calling in this situation because going back to the 2 clubs on the board, he could of limped in with 2 clubs in the beginning as well, maybe KTcc, but I'm still putting him on A high. Now he shoves on the river when a J hits, I'm still thinking at this point he has paired his A on the flop, been trying to protect it on the turn, now he might actually have 2 pair with AJ off and if he does, you got him beat. 

Hope you ended up winning the hand and let me know if I was close or way off. Lol. Don't partake in these that much but it was fun trying to figure this situation out. 

I would appreciate it, if someone can do EV calculation for calling river shove for chopped pot.  thnx for the feedback theraulrus.

Hey Arish, I like the sizing of your flop bet, on the turn I flat though as your hand is very vulnerable and the fact he has basically potted the turn after an OESD hits the flop I call. What else in his range is doing this? Do you think he is doing this with a bare 2pair? Just top pair? What hand xcall flop then pots turn? I think VERY little FDs play their hand like this?

You are far too deep to get frisky here and I really don't think you are getting value from many worse hands by raising this turn as you have no real information on the villains hand or any tendencies, tells, habits as I believe you would have mentioned these.

Basically the turn should always be a call to his bet, not a raise, even if he has a drawing hand he has already given himself a bad price and it isn't a spot you want to get it in for 200bb.

When he raises the turn and you call, not fold he should be jamming 100% of his 3bet range there on the river which consists of a lot of 4's pushing you off a chop and a lot of 6-4s hoping you can't fold your 4. Which means if you call turn, and the river is a brick you should be calling based on the turn play. Sure he may have a few combo bluffs in his range that he has then decided to barrel but I think this is so rare in live.

Optimal line IMO call turn, call most river bets depending on card and sizing.

As played on turn I prefer a turn fold or jam - at this point you are either chopping, ahead or behind. If you think you are chopping or ahead you should get it in as it gives you fold equity vs his 4s and price him with his combodraw semi bluffs etc, as when you just call the 3bet you are always putting yourself in a terrible river spot. When you think you are behind fold to the 3bet and wait for a much better spot.

River jam as played I just fold.

Giving him a loose range (imo) here of 4x, 46, 2c3c, 55 vs your hand it is a tie 82.57% of the time. He wins 15.15% and you win 2.27%.

I haven't done much work on EV for split pots so someone please feel free to correct me. Based on that range, assuming the Pot total is $5015 (you've called) your EV is $16.21. So this means you are paying $1700 for an ev of $16.21 meaning it is a +$16EV every time you make that call. Not a good situation and so variance ridden. This is assuming he has a bluff/semi bluff in his range every now and then. This could greatly change based on villain dynamics, eg his thinking level, your perceived range/thinking level etc. But assuming he is a competent player his range is so heavily weighted to 4's and 46, after you bet flop and raise that turn is basically spew for him to have anything else. Even bare 4s it is a gross move as the way you played the hand you could easily have 46 there, it is how I'd play it. Decent players + don't spew off 200bb lightly.

Take out that range and it quickly changes to a close -$100EV call which I think is more realistic based on a 'standard player' - vacuum hand than earlier but probably not harsh enough... as once again when he 3bets turn his range becomes more polarised unless he views you are terrible and thinks you call off with 2P+ there. Otherwise it is probably a -$500/700EV line.

Probly crying call. No reads of V makes it tough.

You're 125bb deep, with 2nd nuts, blocking the nuts, getting >2:1. I think it's a pretty clear call. He should be shoving almost every 4X and could possibly have XXdd that doesn't include 4d since you have it. Snap & reload if he has the cherry 64.

its a live game as you mentioned so i think more should be said on your read of this opponent so far and general profile. Is he totally unknown? Is he a young reggy kid? Is he a middle aged recreational reg type? The answer to this question is quite important in navigating a spot like this in my opinion. There are certain types of straightforward live players that will pretty much always have a four or 46 here and nothing else. There are some young wizards that might be going ham attacking what looks to them like a set or two pair.

However, i dont really think this a spot a good player is going to attack too often because all you did was check your straddle and bet the flop then raise the turn. You could easily have every combo of 64 and lots of other 4x that will be hard pressed to fold (your range isn't capped). I think its mostly a fold on the river in most cases here (and possibly on the turn given his large sizing). I would also try to gather a physical read on if he seems nervous/stiff/neck is pulsing, etc n all that that could suggest he is bluffing.

i like calling on the turn better than raising. we can raise with our 64 which we have every combo of and even 4Xdd, 4Xcc instead. I dont think were getting much value raising the dry 4 here and would rather avoid this headache and bluff catch when he is out of line otherwise. We strengthen our turn calling range and have a very easy call on the river with this hand on mostly all rivers

I think raising the turn is pretty bad here. Villains turn lead is extremely polar. He has 4x or better, or a random bluff which you want to keep in his range. When he 3 bets the turn i think most villians have 64 exactly and i would want to fold then. As played the river is a fold for me. We are sometimes chopping but with the action as i said before i think most live players are just gonna have the pure nuts here. As usual :)

I don't think you ever have the best hand when you get 3bet on the turn in a live game. If he somehow was bluffing the turn it is very unlikely he jamms the river.

hmmm my initial fish mind said " DURR 2nd NUT OBVIOUS CALL!"

Re read everything !

Folding > Calling OTR

I would need a serious read on this guy to call... would he really spaz ship a set or 2p hand??? even TPTK ? Ive seen rich guys throw around $ before.

Typcially though his line checks out...

46ss is most likley.... limps pre.. ok

check call flop... seems like reasonable move against your likely top pair holding or even combo draw range.

Gets there on turn. leads . 3b for value ... a set or fearful 2 pair could shove here drawing live against made hands 4x 46 so those hands are not as likely...

need a serious read or history to make a call here for that many chips... I would fold turn .... I hesitate to write or Jam... I think Jamming you know your hand is being turned into a bluff.. a set just will not 3bet you on the turn... it wont!

Im a fish I know nothing. Thanks for sharing!