27TD ugly river spot $2/$4 8 game
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27TD ugly river spot $2/$4 8 game
Fish limps CO. SB completes I have AQT65 on the BB. SB draws one, I draw 3 and fish draws 3.
I get 86532 and SB leads. I raise, fish calls, SB calls. SB discards one I pat and he leads, I call fish folds. 3rd street goes pat pat. He donks again. He can value bet 86542, 86543 with some frequency I guess but I have never played this guy. Should I fold 86 with some frequency ?
Thank you guys.
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Not that I play this game, so please don't take my comment too seriously...
I think SB raises pre with 2345, 2[3-6]7, 2[3-5]8 and maybe "just" calls with hand like 2[3-5]6, where his decision after spiking 9 later (and observing what other "known" players do) could be to stand pat with 96. That could be his decision how to play hand 2[3-5]6 3-w.
When you reraise his leading bet and he calls, for me it narrows his holdings to very strong hand. But, which hand he decided to flat pre with which he can stand our reraise now?
For me it would be strong subset of 2[3-5]8 which is 2348 or 2358.
When he donks after last draw I think we must call, but we could easily be beaten by 86432 or 85432 as those are very serious candidates for no-check-raise-VB at SD, although I think I would c/r 85. Most likely he had 86432 (if not 76 after hitting 7 with 2[3-5]6, but again - I think I would c/r 76 )....
Thanks for you input! It is kinda a must call given the odds I am getting on the river but exploitatively speaking I don't see how I am good there with 86532 and how often he is bluffing this spot after I pat twice and raise his donk.
It is a hand strong enough to raise at first draw since he is drawing one after he leads at least 70%-80% of the time but calling down seems so I know I am losing but I gotta call.
Just so I followed the hh right. It went pat pat on the last draw?
I don't think this guy can play Triple Draw very well so I think you need to call down. He just completed pre and then drew one. So his initial draw would surely be super rough, also leading into a pat hand, big mistake. I think surely he can have 87s in his hand here and even a few 9s or straights? I don't think you can fold.
yeah, pat pat sorry for that.
I guess he doesn't he may lead 87 on the second draw but usually he is x/c on the third but I can be wrong on this.
thanks for you answer (:
I think you shouldn`t Raph.
You have very strong and probably underrepped 86 considering you went 3 to pat between 1st and 2nd draws.
If he leads 87 on 2nd he certainly leads it again on 3rd.
I guess question is should you raise after 2nd draw or not which I think you probably should.
86432+ is a 100% 2nd street raise for me, 86532 it is close. Mixing between raising and calling against some players seems better. I expect the majority of 87 combos to check or second or third street.
Never ever folding. I would raise the 2nd lead also...you have a way stronger hand than you should on average and clearly the guy has no clue. I think he is likely to x/r better hands after you pat and its possible he was drawing dead to beat the hand you made after only completing vs a limp with a 1cd.
Yea you're absolutely smashing here lol.
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