Winning or Losing play?

Posted by Excel99

Posted by Excel99 posted in Low Stakes

Posted 11 years, 11 months ago

Winning or Losing play?

I played a hand yesterday in a 6max .50/1NL rush table on full tilt which I would like some help with. UTG + 1 raises to 3 preflop (he has $140) and is a LAG and I'm sitting on the button with J10 off suit and re-raise to $10. Small blind Re-pops to $26, this player is quite good from past hands played and bluffs a lot from the small blind. Action is back on the original raiser and he just flats the $26. I'm sitting with $121, I tanked for a bit and decided to shove. The small blind insta-folded and UTG +1 snapped with QQ's.

A few questions about this hand, should i have just mucked the J10 originally to the guys first re-raise? Was the 5-bet shove justified in this spot, I put the UTG+1 on 99's 10s or JJs and thought he would fold?

I would rely appreciate some insight, and this is my first of hopefully many posts :)

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DrCooper 11 years, 11 months ago

Hi,

Did SB also have 100BB+?
Assuming SB has a full stack I don't like shoving as both SB and UTG+1 have taken a strong line here and will call you down with QQ+, AK which makes up quite a high % of their range. I would just fold to $26 4-bet.
Btw you have blockers to JJ and TT which significantly reduces the chances UTG+1 has these hands in their range.

nma 11 years, 11 months ago

that's def a losing play. You 3 bet UTG open, SB 4 bets!! (at this point you should be going like HOLY FUCK) and then UTG FLATS (OMFG ANOTHER STRONG HAND) .... fold as soon as possible.

You have J 10, so how do you expect him to have JJ 10s when you're blocking some of the combos? Also, I doubt he decides to flat a 4bet with 9s.. I think QQ is like near the bottom of his flatting range there. However, i'm not sure about his call with queens, I don't know your stats but you took a monster line that probably revolves mostly around AKs KK+ (unless you like to bluff a lot in that spot, I don't know..)

Also, why not just call? You're in position with a relatively good multi-way hand.

edit : NVM thought it was TJs.. DEF a fold.

Malfato 11 years, 11 months ago

(OMFG ANOTHER STRONG HAND) lol

If u have/know the reasons to 3bet pf, ok. But after sb 4bets and utg flatted a cold4b-26$...DEF a fold.

DirtyD 11 years, 11 months ago

Did you have any reads that would indicate either player would be out of line here? If not, shoving seems pretty suicidal as they've both shown extraordinary strength up to this point and in this context your hand is garbage.

GameTheory 11 years, 11 months ago

And the spew of the week award goes to........

But seriously, shoving TT/JJ is a massive losing play here, TJo is like trowing money on an ignited grill.
Your first 3-bet is ok since since your hand is slightly weaker than you could call the raise with, but once this hand gets 4-bet you must click this nice Quick Fold button that Rush has so there will be no mistake.

Forbes M 11 years, 11 months ago

Don't hate the 3bet pre but fold after the 4 bet and the flat. JTo isn't going to cut it even suited is pretty horrible. Your opponents should have you crushed and you have no real blockers.