What is LLinusLLove doing with 22? Is that a mergey type of hand? I am not this high class or advanced lol.

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What is LLinusLLove doing with 22? Is that a mergey type of hand? I am not this high class or advanced lol.

Blinds: $25.00/$50.00 (3 Players) BN: Stambolov: $5565.34
SB: OhHeyCindy: $5935.09
BB: LLinusLLove: $5000.00
Preflop ($75.00)
Stambolov folds, OhHeyCindy raises to $133.50, LLinusLLove calls $83.50
Flop ($267.00) 6 6 J
OhHeyCindy bets $87.45, LLinusLLove raises to $311.80, OhHeyCindy calls $224.35
Turn ($890.60) 6 6 J 3
OhHeyCindy checks, LLinusLLove bets $1017.38, OhHeyCindy calls $1017.38
River ($2925.36) 6 6 J 3 2
OhHeyCindy checks, LLinusLLove bets $3537.32 and is all in, OhHeyCindy calls $3537.32
Final Pot OhHeyCindy lost and shows two pair, Jacks and Sixes.
LLinusLLove wins and shows a full house, Deuces full of Sixes.
LLinusLLove wins $9998.00
Rake is $2.00

Is LLinusLLove doing this so his opponent can't just call with ace high or just put him in bad spots with multiple hands? What is going on exactly?

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stroggos 7 years, 6 months ago

flop is just a raise for protection, he takes it down sometimes, and yes some value as well. It's hard to explain these flop raises but they are for a combination of reasons like the ones i listed above, so the flop raise is relatively standard and i think the solver will play very similarly.

I can only speculate on turn. The sizing says he basically has a 6 or a strong Jack. He decides to put 22 in his range for a number of reasons, similar to the flop raise. When he is polarized like this, he will actually get some value with this overbet. (they are calling with a lot of flush draws, some A-high.) It makes him tougher to play against. It does seem like a kind of merge, which is normal for linuslove, i think from reading his other hand histories he does this kind of stuff a lot, either merging, or making small bets with entire range on scary boards rather than checking. So i guess he think's checking 22 on turn is an inferior play.

A lot of the time he also bets very small, like 30% after c/r flop. so he will c/r then barrel off small bets, but this doesn't seem like the board texture he wants to do it on.

SeniorPomidor 6 years, 2 months ago

My personal view of this situation, he raises on the flop because he can fold some better hands for example 44 55, also if villain folds some overcards it,s good too, and he can get value from fd, on the turn i think he put him on the this range fd 6x and jx+, he decided overbets because he gives bad price for fd, and thats all)

Demondoink 6 years, 2 months ago

on the flop I believe that OOP is meant to be doing a ton of checking, as the bb has many more 6x than the sb for a couple of reasons:

1-i'm assuming that sb has a mixed strategy, limping some hands and raising others, 6xo are mostly going to be limping pre-flop, and 6x suited are good limp raises, hands such as 65s,76s etc. so the sb should not have very many 6x hands once he gets to this flop.

2-population over c bet sb vs bb, so when the sb is c betting too many hands, you get to increase your flop raising frequency. doing so with a couple of these under-pairs makes sense because when villain folds K7o then this is great for us because he is probably folding around 35-40% equity, and also our hand does not not realise equity well at all and needs to fold 100% on the turn unless we make a boat.

the cool thing about raising this hand on the flop is, apart from the folding out of OOP's over cards and the denial of him bluffing us off of our hand on a later street, we can get called by worse hands and be able to check down for some EV. even on the turn once we bet we are getting called by all Axhh combinations as well as most Kxhh combo's. where as if he has a hand such as 88/99 he is mostly going to have to fold. so we are getting better to fold and worse to call-the benefits of merge betting I guess!

and even on the river we can sometimes check back and beat the aforementioned flush draw combo's. also on the flop when we raise and are called our 2 outs are extremely clean, they give us the nuts and of course we can then triple off for value. where as bluff raising a hand such as 54cc and then turning a pair is okay but our hand is now too strong to bluff with and of course to weak to value bet.

I really like his line tbh, and even the fact that he raised 22 and not 55, probably shows that he is only taking this line with the weakest pocket pairs and that hands such as 55/44 would just be calling vs the flop bet, or perhaps raising flop to exploit OOP betting too often to then x down vs A/K highs.

fwiw I don't think I really like Cindy's call down with a Jack. I mean on the river the flush gets there, you lose to 6x and a fairly common flop bluff raising hand such as 54 also backdoors in to a straight. can probably fold Jx and continue with flushes, overpairs and trips+. seems like a Jack is pretty much the bottom of his range by this point, so I guess he is probably just calling down as an exploit, but I feel even Linus struggles to come up with enough bluffs on this particular run out.

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