What about KK vs AA QQ vs AA ,AK vs AA
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What about KK vs AA QQ vs AA ,AK vs AA
I find always some games that the opoment has a monster and me too.
Can someone help me about taking some more tells in low stakes that I may fold this hand?
Its always hard.
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When I get 3bet: With AA and KK if you can get it in pre-flop then get it in, if you run into AA well then tough luck scratch it and move on. AK is a little bit more situational vs players for me, but it is pretty standard to get AK in from certain position vs certain positions. I would never go all in pre-flop when i raise AK utg and get raised by the blinds, their range is super strong unless me and villain have history and my hud stats say so also. AK button vs blinds I'm going to try to get it in. AK MP vs Button I'm going to try to get it in as well, sometimes I will flat depending on the player. QQ is also pretty situational vs player and position, at 200nl I would comfortably get QQ in vs some players, but overall I prefer to flat the 3bet and play it In position and sometimes OOP. This is pretty general, and I apologize if its hard to understand. But I base a lot of stuff on player reads and hud stats to make a better decision. But I can't really explain it, because you really need to have a decent understanding of 3betting ranges "value/bluffs ratio" and stuff of the sort to know how to adjust to it. One thing I will say though, is that at 100nl I find it fairly uncommon to see players 5b jamming QQ. maybe only button vs blinds?
1.Let say you are in the Co and raise 3 bb with QQ . You get 3bet from the bu to 9bb . you 4 bet to 27 bb and he pushes allin for his 100 bb. you have to call 73 bb to win 200 bb. you need 37%(with rake and to have more than a marginal ev+ a little more) to make this call profitable. Now is the question how much equity we have vs the range of villian. Vs a qq+,ak range we have about 40% and a call would be slightly profitable. Vs a jj+,ak+ hand we already have 48% (would be 23bb per call(massive). but on the other hand if he is very tight or like to flat strong hands and never 5 betbluff( like nobody does that on smallstakes and is a good player i guess) he might have a kk+ range with give us only a 19 % chance of winning the hand. vs a unknown player in smallstacks i would probably call here very often ,because there are enough fishes who maybe even 5 bet shove with tt or sth aq or who are on tilt or who are maniacs and the rocks that only go broke with aa,kk are not as much as the other types i would say.
another alternative is to only call the 3 bet. But if u have some bluffs in your 4 bet range i think to 4 bet with queens are very fine and to play oop with ur queens when u only flat isnt so nice to play .(you often loose even to smaller pairs like jj if an ace or k is on the flop cause you have to play check/fold., if u 4 bet they may call and on the flop u can play bet/fold or they 5 bet all in or they even fold which is the downside of the 4 bet of course.
2. If the Co open for 3 bb you 3 bet to 9bb on the button and he 4 bet to 27 bb i think its more difficult. first of all his range is normally a little bit wider than last example when he 5 bet shoves. on the other hand if we 5 bet shove its harder to imagine someone go broke with jacks and even ak is here a fold more often i guess. Another thing is we play our qq in position if we flat the 4 bet and jj and tt and some bluffs could be in his 4 bet range way easier than in his 5 bet shove range,so we keep them in ,but we dont have the initiative so we may lose on a lot of kxx and axx boards .neverthelessi guess i would prefer the 4 bet shove here.
this two examples are quite difficult i am intersted at your opinions.
if u got kk you always have to broke in normal cg preflop . YOU HAVE TO! and if your were the button in the first example and u would get 3 bet from the sb i think a flat is a very good alternative and if u are in the sb and 3 bet the qq and he 4 bets u its a clear shove 5 bet for me . i hope it wasnt to long and help you a little bit ;)
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