Weird spot getting check/min raised on turn with combo draw 400bb deep

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Weird spot getting check/min raised on turn with combo draw 400bb deep

2/5 live game, fairly deep.

3 limps,
96cc in cutoff with $4k stack
Open to 35
Bb and 3 limpers call.

Flop KcTx2c
Checks to me, bet $125
BB calls rest fold
Turn 8x
Check/ bet $225/ BB min raises to $550 w/ 1.1k behind

Lots of history with BB, he is somewhat thinking player, typically very passive against me with strong holdings, as I have pretty aggro image.

My first question:
What would we do with our top value range here? Do we go for the flat with hands that block some combo draw hands that he decides to min check raise and jam those that do not? Do we jam all strong value, or do we flat our strong value?

Second question, based on answer to above question, what do we do with 96cc here?

My initial thoughts: I would probably jam most of my value hands KTs, KK, TT, AK and AA that don’t include Ac to deny equity against any combo draw that decides to put in the check raise?
And in doing this, should also probably jam AQcc, AJcc, QJcc, Q9cc, J9cc, and 96cc.
Is this poor logic?

What would his range look like for flat bb x/c flop x/c/min raiser turn? I have played hundreds of hours with this player, and do not think ever once has he taken betting lead away from me when he has had a premium holding, as I may have a reputation for blasting off.
I guess the main question here is what would we do with each of our value hands, and then in turn, what should we do with some of our bluffs.

I hope this made some sense, as I am typing this on my phone, and appreciate any feedback

Thanks.

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hansa01 7 years, 9 months ago

Preflop, why do you raise it up with such a bad hand, in a game where you have no fold equity? I would raise with a linear range here (probably AT+, KJ+, 99+, good suited cons). A limp behind (or a fold, depends on your postflop edge) would be the better play.

On the flop, the cbet is fine, but the bb continues only with a strong range here, because there are 3 people still acting behind him. I think his worst holdings are KJ, QJ and flush draws.

On the turn, what type of player is villain? Does he always continue here with KJ and only gives up bad fd/QJ sometimes, then there is no merit in betting again. Or be prepared to fire the river again and huge with your exact holding.
And the checkraise usually means extreme strength. I would consider folding with KQ, AK or even AA (my worst value bets on the turn). Against 90% of players this line is only KT+ or only AK+. (Some players do not 3bet with AK and overvalue it in this sit).
And I would only jam KK and TT here, KT is the bluff catcher for the river when no draw hits, and call all of your draws. Calling the checkraise with AK is setting money on fire against an only-value-range.

When no draw hits at the river and villain checks, dont try to bluff him, he will be on check call mode. Or only bluff really small, e.g. 200 in 1300 to fold out better draws when you think he could have some. This bet only has to work 1/6 of the time to be profitable.

hansa01 7 years, 9 months ago

Important to note, villain will not exploit you when you only jam for val on the turn. How should he know? He will never make a laydown with KT+ there. And if he is bad enough to raise AK then he will be bad enough to call your shove.
And my analysis is based on my generic 2/5 player I have to deal with every day. :)

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