Very low WWSF in 6max winning at NL10/25 regardless
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Very low WWSF in 6max winning at NL10/25 regardless
I have noticed I have very small WWSF. Regardless of an extremly low WWSF for 6 max cash game standards I am still small winner(1-2bb/100) on NL10/25, the site I am playing on has a pretty big rake of 7.5% so most of my earnings are through rakeback. The previous site I was playing on had 5% rake and there I was a pretty normal 3-4bb/100 winner on same stakes but also had a very small WWSF of 38.
So as I checked my stats per position I noticed that its my SB/BB WWSF that is dragging the whole average down as you can see in the link bellow and other positions are much higher.
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So my questions are is my assumption correct and I only have problems in SB/BB and if it is so what would you suggest from seeing my other stats for me to fix that?
If you notice any other unusal stats please feel free to point it out.
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To me seems like
-From SB it shouldn't be low, we are playing either 3bet pot OOP (which still winning quite often) or vs BB OOP with range advantage so winning bunch too.
-From BB it can be lower because defending and giving postflop quite a lot. Our goal is to make hands more profitable than folding, not to win every single time we call while putting pressure vs strong ranges.
Medicine is to work on your game, play less tables and fight more for small spots(autopilot off).. don't think I have anything else coming to mind
Your stats are very weak/tight. You are calling too often preflop as opposed to raising and you're also not finding enough bluffs postflop. On a positive note you're still a small winner so you're probably not making very many big mistakes, but you're clearly leaning towards risk-aversion side of the spectrum.
I would gradually start to open up my game and be a little bit more aggressive, starting from preflop. Watch some videos and see how pros are playing preflop and finding spots to bluff.
Yea, that's a pretty damn low WWSF, and can be very exploited by observant opponents. I guess you still get to win because players at 10/25NL are not exploiting you enough.
I acctualy have the same problem, but my wwsf is around 45, wich is abit to low still for my taste. I think most topregs in my games are around 50% wwsf overall.
Would love to hear what other good players have to say about WWSF%, should it be over 50% from all other positions than BB? Im not an stat expert :(-
I tend to put people with wwsf below 45 as nits, 45-48 i think is decent number.. Over 50, still a good number, fighting even harder for pots wich is good, but here we need to start bluffcatching even more.
Back to helping you now!
Yes, some things stands out for me. I agree with Samu Patronen You are just playing a to tight game for my taste.
I would start by polish your preflop game abit, simply get some charts, i recommend snowies preflop stuff, its free and solid. Then Your 3bet and RFI should jump up a touch.
Then postflop, you need to start barreling more- probably look for thinner valuebets, experiment with bigger sizings, and pull the trigger more often- Don't checkback hands without showdown.
Looking at videos from good players is also a great idea.
There are some factors that have an impact on your WWSF, for example if you play loose preflop, your WWSF is going to be lower naturally. So I wouldn't use that as the only factor in determining how good a player is. It's much like red line in that regard.
Sorry for assuming.
I admire the confidence.
Well i am already using pokersnowie except i dont 3b as many suited Ax from blinds as pokersnowie recommends do you actually follow pokersnowie completely?
Good players just sounds better Samu Patronen , Good analysers ;D
you can check some top players stats via ''statname'' . As far as I recall some huge winners have it around 47-49 and losing by red-line
TBH, mine is @ 45% but I play Ignition (anonymous) so a part of my game is just passing up spots where I have bricked completely and they show aggression. I rely on pool stats much more than individual player stats. They can be useful when you find a guy at a regular speed table that has some glaring issues that show quickly in a small sample (usually not getting more than 100 hands on anyone). Mine is above 50% in Heads Up pots and quite lower in the MW pots that seem to happen so often at microstakes. Try to filter for spots where you are HU and see how you are doing in those Puma1 and then filter for 3 handed and then 3+ handed. This will help you narrow it down some and help in your analysis.
.01/,02 cent player here- weighing in here: mine is wwsf50% (but my tables in general do not payoff value and are very good at folding) .......however I don't think you can only look at YOUR stats all together alone. Because your stats have to be measured (think of like the old school equalizers bar on the radio) up and down DEpending on your table or opponent. So while 46-50 maybe considered the right place to be........if your table is calling alot then 37-40 might be optimal(dodging rocks thrown at me here,the mob ohhhh). imo your stats should be measured against your opponents stats.
emmmmmmmmmmmm, instead of calling pre, take all your suited bucketc and either call or raise,,,,,,,,take all your non suited that you are calling with and Fold. Use the suitableness to get more aggressive on flops and turns. That may help.....or just totally wreck your game. Your a winning player congratulations! I would make any changes you decide to make slow and .....observantly to the big picture...because your whole strategy together is a winning one so like in chaos theory....change one little thing and it could have a devastating effect as in your stats being ohhh so pretty and a losing player. I would focus more on extracting more value from your value hands and methods to do so based on your opponent, ie does he attack weakness on turn?
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