and wat flushes do u have here ?

If u do it with all your TT you will be overbluffing river because you won't have enough flush. I guess doing it with TdT would be nice though.

I would say, good luck with that. The "bluff" would it get him off of AA? Is he solid reg that would fold Aces? I guess i need to work more on folding AA properly myself. I am getting better at it but man, I can't tell you how I should fold but for some freakin reason, I still think that AA is the nutz!!! I am a donkey i guess ha ha. One day, AA is only Ace High!

The issue with x/calling OTR w AA here is that I basically have to turn some made hand into bluff for x/call to be plus ev. And not everyone will do that. So x/call w AA even with blocker is not a huge plus EV spot.

Given the fact that OTF fish is in the pot, I will not raise any set.
OTT I think I'll raise KJs, JJ and 99. Thats 8 combos... So I guess for balance sake I have to raise 8 more bluffs, which could be QJ,JT,T9 w/o FD (6) and maybe need to raise TT(no diamonds).
So OTR I will have 88 and 6 flushes. And than can bluff 3 combos of TT. And not be overbluffing. Seeems like a good plan. And this way if someone starts x/calling me OTR, I will just don't have enough bluffs.

And saying "Good luck getting him off AA" is kind of gross. I didn't knew his holding at a time.

I'm not sure that shoving any flush would be reasonnable. Q high+ for sure, weaker than that depends on vilains but I wouldn't guaranty that we beat more than 50% of a c/c range shoving JTdd here. That being said, I like your plan.

There is also a few considerarions why this river bluff might be bad:
* Villain can x/call w all his sets (9 combos) and 2 pair (4) and go for x/raise w nut flushes (at least 3 combos). So if he never x/folds anything there that sounds like a bad plan I believe.

Also w AA w flush blocker villain should be valuebetting OTR. givem that I will have no more than 3 flushes and will x/back all my KQ, AK hands. Well, if I don't have agressive raising strategy OTT, I will have a lot of 1-pair hands to try to bluff him off TP-type hands.

Also there could be a case to not float light OTF given villain position and the fact that fish is in the pot.

Of course its not overbluffing, youre repping straights as well as flushes so TT w a diamond would be the nut combo to turn into a bluff here but i`d bluff this as well.
Would shove though.

yeah once you shove, your kind of neglecting the straight and only representing the flush, and maybe some other 2 pair combos.

His river check is interesting. In my mind, he did it for two reasons:

1. He did it to induce the very bluff you made. In this case, he had to feel good you would fire the river with your entire range that makes it to the river.

2. He was legitimately concerned that you made a hand there. In this case, there is some bet amount that would have gotten him to fold.

Your river bet effectively gave him 2.25/1 odds to call and and whether he did the math or not, figured he was going to be right something like 30% of the time and called.

The flop seems like a fold to me? Heads up we should probably call but when he bets this board into two opponents a) he should be stronger in general b) we don't need to defend as much.

On the river I would consider how many flushes you actually have here at all, having called an open from the CO. AdQd, AdJd, AdTd, QdJd, JdTd seems like 100% frequency hands, then Td9d sometimes, 7d6d rarely. (Maybe some of these are raised on the flop as well, if you raise sets). So unless you don't have a raising range on the flop, you don't have too many value combos here, and it's easy to bluff too much if you always peel TT twice like this (and even consider bluffing JTs, T9s stuff).

Instinctively, it looks better to bluff with Td rather than without it. But in practice it shouldn't matter unless villain is checking flushes to us on the river. (He doesn't have any non-flush value hands that holding the Td would block). Although to stay in line and not bluff too much, having a suit in our hand is at least a good guideline.

In general it's probably never too bad to turn weak SD into a bluff when checked to on the river, as draws come in, but we should consider our ranges more closely.

Well, put it into a PioViewer, and it does turns a lot of Tx hands into bluff OTR (like AT, T9, TT). But also he does not raise much OTF and OTT, so he kind of balanced there with 2p+ combinations.

Also villain is x/folding AA that do not have flush blocker and x/calls w flush blocker.
WP villain.

Fold flop, next hand.