TT-JJ, what should I do is best here?
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TT-JJ, what should I do is best here?
BN: $25 (Hero)
SB: $15.44
BB: $24.07
UTG: $41.26
HJ: $37.15
CO: $26.93
SB: $15.44
BB: $24.07
UTG: $41.26
HJ: $37.15
CO: $26.93
Preflop
($0.35)
(6 Players)
Hero was dealt
T
T
UTG folds, HJ raises to $0.75, CO raises to $2.25, Hero folds, SB folds, BB folds, HJ folds
UTG folds, HJ raises to $0.75, CO raises to $2.25, Hero folds, SB folds, BB folds, HJ folds
what should I do here is the best action? I had meet the case like this every day.
Final Pot
CO
wins $1.85
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Snapfold, forget, move on. :)
Unless Villian is a maniac who 5-bet jams light, it's a fold.
Cold calling defines your range a lot, so Villian can play really well versus you, but you have no clue what he has.
really? so do you guys not have a flatting range here? calling is my standard with something like 99 - QQ/AQs/AKo would you say I am losing money here?
How would cold calling define your range here? If it's dicey to 3bet AKo in CO's shoes, I don't see how it's a great idea to 4bet it in Hero's shoes, though you could certainly it's a very high equity cold 4-bet bluff which doesn't mind getting called. I don't think Tens is a good idea to 4bet or call either, but when you say it defines our range aren't you essentially saying you never call AKo here and that you never call QQ? Both of those seem like mistakes.
I totally misread this hand thought hero was hijack sorry :-/
That is exactly what players put you on, but you can't define his range as well.
Villian won't put much money in with bluffs on boards that hit you, because he sort of knows what you have.
what are your justifications for 4betting TT/calling3bet IP?
If MP is 20% open;
CO 3-bets 18 value + 10 air;
QQ+, A5s-A4s, 7d6d, 7h6h,
TT equity vs CO equity PF is 36.89%. assuming that EP folds.
You stack off incorrectly on low run outs vs Overpairs, on broad-way run-outs you hate life, and furthermore you get little or no value from enemies air range.
then add in all the other factors: EP can 4bet bluff and with TT you hate life because it becomes hugely marginal.
Then factor in EP calling and now any overcard to a T is potentially in both of these players ranges. and low runouts you get value owned.
I think you have to be Deep to call TT for set mining value
It´s not only stack depths, different factors come together in this spot:
1) The open-raiser is still active - and it´s MP, so he should have started with a somewhat strong range. If HJ 4bets his strongest hands (the ones we want to setmine against!), we lost our entire equity.
2) If you don´t get squeezed, the pot will be 3-way. Getting oversetted becomes a real threat.
3) If you make your set, it´s unlikely you´ll get that much value in a 3-way pot, because even overpairs will get cautious if you make your T/J.
4) You didn´t invest anything, so you don´t have to defend anything. You´re not getting any "discount", calling has to be +EV in isolation.
4bet seems meh and flatting seems meh, you say this happens all the time? I think you are unlucky.... I'm usually sitting somewhere else when this happens like SB/BB.
What if we were in the SB or the openers in UTG + MP and we had QQ or AK?
I'd always 4-bet AK, but not always to stack off.
You need to have some kind of 4-bet/folding range, so taking the hands that blocks AA/KK is the best one for the job. Calling off depends a ton on the Villian.
If Villian only 3-bets KK/AA, the occasional bluff and maybe AKs, then QQ would be a gross but correct fold.
He has to be bluffjamming a lot, and also jam AK.
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