Trying to understand BB defend
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Trying to understand BB defend
I am started trying to understand flop BB ranges vs BTN with GTO+, but i am a little stuck.
when i see a flop like AK9, where i have no sets, it x/r is obviously low, but is x/r like 4%, K9 the most, A9o and A9s less than K9, (thing that i can´t catch) and then any bluffs.
Here, i am just losed. What supposed to be doing in real games? should i be x/r all 2p and balanced with more bluffs so my x/r% will be bigger, or just go for no x/r range in this tipe of boards because IP got big advantage here?
Same think is bloking me in all boards.
For example, on AKQ, it is x/r just very low part of JTo, then it put like 2/3 of x/r range as bluffs. Then i think that i should be just raising all JTo and then 2/3 of bluff, so my raising range will be bast bigger than solver suggest me. It is correct for a real strategy, or i am just wrong?
Any tips on this way are very appreciated, i am just losed.
Thanks
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To simplify your Problem a little Bit be devasting from GTO: we have such a massive range disadvantage on the both mentioned boards that i simply dont have a XR range at all here. Its hard to balance a xr-range for the reason you mentioned.
The reason why solver prefers to XR K9 more on the 1st board is due to unblocking TP. You will see this effect esp. when comparing the 3 sets a board can offer. When XR for value it’s always better to unblock top pair.
Very thanks for the fast reply Raoul.
Just a think that i can´t catch, i understand that in AK9 we prefer just to not xr, and it is clear for me now, but in AKQ i can´t understand why. I mean we got nuts in us range, i understand that the board is very good for IP, but have 12 combos of nuts, why is better just to not xr here?
If i xr all the 12 combos + like 24 combos of bluff, it is like equilibrate range? why it is worst than just 0% xr here?
and other question btw, just seeing Axx flops atm, but it seems to pick +- it relation value/bluff 1/3 for that in all that boards, it is correct to build it like that in all boards where we want to have xr range?
very thanks
You don't want to ch/r all your JT on that AKQ flop, because then your range is too weak when you call. You will often want to ch/c AX, KT, QJ so you need some strong ch/c as well as these hands aren't happy calling 3 streets. The solver is able to balance a small polarised ch/r range without damaging our ch/c range too much, but this is super difficult to do in reality.
FUCKPOLICE1312
You already got good response above.
On AKQ, you have 12 combos TJ?! Depending on How you construct your range. Btn have 16 combos TJ, and on Top of that he have all the strong Broadways, that you 3bet mostly.
So the EV of your entire strategy is higher to slowplays some, or most TJ, because this way you get to showdown some weaker hands. You Will still get value because IP Will valuebet worse for 3 streets, and bluff alot etc.
Intresting board. Try to not copy frequencies of every sim. Just try to understand Why it choose different lines and you can very easily apply it to a bunch of spots and play a good effective strategy.
Very thanks for replys guys
I saw that the strategy without xr has more ev on both boards.
There is one thing I don't understand and I don't know if I'm doing it wrong
When I look at the AKQ flop the original OOP strategy has an ev of 2,129, then what i am doing for see different strategys as oop on the flop is just blok IP strategy on flop as it is in the original, then I do my strategy as oop without xr, i select what i want to pay and fold then run solver.
The result of this is a higher ev than in the original sim as oop, just 2,137
I don't understand this, is it normal? Is it because I'm blocking IP on the flop to do the original strategy? Shouldn't I do this to see how different strategies work as OOP on flop?
This is counterintuitive to me, how can you have a more ev strategy than the original GTO response?
Thanks
You can gain EV if you lock and counter strategies correctly. Make sure to Run Sims to very high accuracy.
If you just lock 0% checkraise and Run sim, iP Will counter this lower checkraise. However, the ev gain for Ip/ loss for oop Will be minimal given how rarely you should checkraise to begin with.
If you take a board where you should C/r often, and dosent allow any c/r- IP Will gain alot of EV
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