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TPGK gets checkraised & 3 barreled shoved on v.dry board (I river trips)

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TPGK gets checkraised & 3 barreled shoved on v.dry board (I river trips)

BN: $19.41
SB: $49.16
BB: $30.80
UTG: $25.70
HJ: $25.35
CO: $27.72 (Hero)
21/15/9% 3bet from SB
WTSD/W@SD/WWSF: 29/49/43
Check Raise Flop: 15%
Preflop ($0.35) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt J Q
UTG folds, HJ folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BN folds, SB calls $0.65, BB folds
Flop ($1.75) 3 2 Q (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.20, SB raises to $4, Hero calls $2.80
His check raise is rather quite big and doesn't make too much sense on such a dry board.
I think he would do this with 44 or something stupid.
This sizing with any other value hand seems insane right?
Turn ($9.75) 3 2 Q 7 (2 Players)
SB bets $6.25, Hero calls $6.25
Again, the board does not change much.
I feel like I have to call and can't really put him on any other hand that beats me that would play like this except 33/22/(maybe AQ)/slowplayed AA?

River ($22.25) 3 2 Q 7 Q (2 Players)
SB bets $21.25
This river spot really sucks.

I feel I should fold, but he is repping so little value combos.
22/33/AQ

I doubt any other hand would play this way?

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RaoulFlush 11 years, 6 months ago

ugly spot for sure...given he´s a reg with a decent 3b% from the SB I really doubt he has 1 of the hands you mentioned. Cauz most regs wouldnt flat em in SB preflop usually (or wouldnt pot KK/AA OTR)...On the other hand is this particular rivercard the absolut worst to bluff on. I guess in game i would make the crying call and take a decent note on this guy cauz his line is sort of FOS and some GS/OESD and BDFD missed

eton7410 11 years, 6 months ago

Villian has a full house almost always, sometimes with complete shit like 45 of diamonds.

I would fold the river getting really shitty price.

Getready2rokk 11 years, 6 months ago

Since hes SB i would not put 45s stuff in his range.
This spot really depends on how you view him and the notes/reads you have, is he capable of c/r bluffing ? Would he barrel allot ?
In this spot Qxx dry is a board that gets c/r a little bit since its so dry and your cbetting abour your entire range.

If you just have him as a unkown and with this stats, I think there are 2 factors that weigh in making this a fold:

- 1 he has WWSF of 43% pretty low, means hes not fighting for pots
- 2: He calls from SB, typical SB flat range are PP, good Ax, suited broadways, since most ppl wont turn PP into bluffs and c/c their Ax hands i think he dssnt have many hands to bluff with in the first place.

The only few hand i could see him bluff and barrel are A4dd,A5dd,TJdd hands like that, suited of diamonds that hit FD on turn. So just a really slim range.

I would probably just fold turn here, as i dont think he has enough bluffs.
River is a card that i wont think he would bluff allot, its pretty bad since you hit trips so much.

SPrince 11 years, 6 months ago
I feel I should fold, but he is repping so little value combos.

77,33-22,AQo,KQo,QJo,AQs,KQs,QJs-QTs = 70 combos.

 I think he would do this with 44 or something stupid.

I think it`s more likely he does it with hands like KTdd,JTdd,A2/A6dd etc.. that have more backdoor equity and can barrel more turns.

Weird sizing on the river though.I`m somewhat doubtful he makes this sizing with FH`s and Qx.

  

friedpie 11 years, 6 months ago
77,33-22,AQo,KQo,QJo,AQs,KQs,QJs-QTs = 70 combos.

QTs-QK I really can't see it. I doubt he would barrel the turn with less than AQ and his check raise isn't super high that he is check-raising every decent Qx combo. If we had more history and he had some reads on me that I peeled light I would believe it.

Fou 11 years, 6 months ago

Hi,

His 3-bet percentage preflop is pretty high so we can think he doesn't have AQ or KQ in his range (KQ is still more likely than AQ). Usually, people don't call 22 or 33 on the SB. Even if we can see people calling 22 or AQ with his profile, that's rare and I won't suppose it while I don't see it.

So for sure he's not repping much on the flop. Some people can do that with pockets, sometimes with hands that have backdoor draws (like JdTd, …).

I won't fold the flop or the turn, but the river is most questionable. 


I think I call on the river because first, as we said, he's not repping much, his line doesn't make any sense and his range is quite polarized from our point of view (without information). Don't forget to take a note.

Amit Patel 11 years, 6 months ago

Hero's perceived range that reaches the river is KK+ and Qx. Maybe stubborn JJ or TT. His river sizing can be large because Qx is almost never folding in this spot and always calling.

A lot of people are saying call down because his line makes no sense, but this is 25NL and people raise strong hands on dry boards fairly often.

Marrek 11 years, 6 months ago

a x/r % of 15 can be entirely made up of strong hands (good top pairs+) and strong draws.  Also, its 15% in all spots, not necessarily on super dry flops.  Folding the flop is fine.  I would not call the turn.  The river queen does nothing for your hand vs his range.  He's been repping AQ/KQ, 22 and 33.

Since there's no draws here, he may have a 0% semi-bluffing range.  Also, his wtsd and w$wsf suggest he is more call happy and less bluffy.

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