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TP on the river seems to turn into a bluff catcher 50NL

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TP on the river seems to turn into a bluff catcher 50NL

HJ: $35.38
CO: $51.06
BN: $109.98 (Hero)
SB: $35.75
BB: $99.63
UTG: $50.85
Villain is 23/18 5.8 3bet 1.3 agg freq - pretty solid and a TAG for sure. His BTN open is 36% and his fold 73%
Preflop ($0.75) (6 Players)
Hero was dealt A 6
UTG folds, HJ folds, CO raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5.25, SB folds, BB folds, CO calls $3.75
So seeing that we have the read and stats on the villain A6 felt like a nice spot here to 3 bet
Flop ($11.25) 2 8 A (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero bets $6.85, CO calls $6.85
I almost check here, as I would argue it has become to generate some value plus the flop is pretty dry. So can we bet for value, sure, so I do! :P
Turn ($24.95) 2 8 A Q (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks
Not entirely sure why I checked here. Not sure it is a mistake but I was scared of bigger aces I guess. Would be interested in to see what peeps think. I felt it was close, but I am guessing I should have bet 2/3 pot?
River ($24.95) 2 8 A Q 5 (2 Players)
CO bets $14, Hero calls $14
When the villain leads the river I now feel our hand is essentially a bluff catcher? And I tank call?
Final Pot
CO has 9 T Hero has A 6 Hero wins $50.57
So this time we were correct? But how profitable is our line in the long term? I guess the check OTT induce the villain OTR but also put us in a tough spot OTR as well.

What ya think?

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maco 12 years, 3 months ago
I like the 3bet preflop with a hand that has a blocker.The flop is an easy value bet,I will cbet the flop with all my range here,on the turn I like the check because I don't see worst hands calling.On the river I would just fold because on the flop there weren't that many draws (maybe something like 45 but hands like that aren't in hes range) and I don't see him transforming in to a bluff something like JJ/TT.Don't post the results of the hand in your future posts,it ruins all the fun.
james 12 years, 3 months ago
I like this line vs someone who is wide preflop/ on the flop and who has some "bluff" in him. I think your 3 bet preflop is too big though given that you're in position (4.50 should be fine) and you listed his button stats even though he's actually in the CO.
igotya 12 years, 3 months ago
I agree with this, I fold river aswell since he basically would have to float you OOP or turn a madehand into a bluff in order for you to be able to call profitable.
Coffeespoons16 12 years, 3 months ago
I think river is a call assuming this is the first time we've been in this situation with villain. Getting an idea of what hands villain defends out of position here and what hands he can take this line with is going to result in our being able to exploit him more in the future I think. Obviously if villain shows us AQ here instead of 9Tss we don't take as much away from the hand, but we still get something. Granted there are possibly 30 combos of hands that beat you here if we assume he 4bets AK pre, calls out of position with ATs and 22/88 and only check calls with those hands on the flop we are in a spot of bother getting the required 25-30% equity we need on the river to call, but without having seen villain go to showdown before in this spot I call and take note of what he shows up with and how he played it.

You should also put up more stats so we have as much information as you do to give you better feedback. For instance knowing how much he 4bets is quite important here I think and, if you have a decent sample of them, his WTSD, WWSF, Fold to cbet in 3bet pot, etc. Also his aggression frequency street by street might help too.
Robert Van Scoyoc 12 years, 3 months ago
Call bc people lead rivers here with their whole range that c/c flop floats worse pps etc etc....but he's polarized on the river and I tend to weight it towards bluffs. If he is c/c flop with Ax to bluff catch its unlikely he leads the river for value. That would not follow congruent lines of logic. I realize this isn't always true but I tend to find the river lead here is the weaker parts of his range and when he checks he always has Ax. I just don't think people like to kill the value of bluff catching hands and bet bug on the river. So i call or raise if I think he will fold AT also:)
Coffeespoons16 12 years, 3 months ago
I neglected to comment of flop and turn play and focused on the decision to call river.

Readless I'd usually check flop to keep villains range wider and once I check flop I call turn and river. Villains stats (without seeing showdown of this hand) lead you to assume he isn't going to be getting too out of line on this flop or calling it super light that often. Since that's the case it would probably be a mistake to try and get 3 streets of value with A6 on this board vs a reg running those numbers as they're usually going to show you a better hand. If villain was something stupid like 57/18 with a no fold to 3bet, cbet and had a WTSD of 30+ you could make a case for attempting to get 3 streets (but given the run out of the board that may not be great).

All that being said I like checking flop for the reason stated above, to keep his range wider and possibly get 2 streets from worse or induce. Checking flop also means that we aren't playing a guessing game vs a stronger range on the river, whereas by checking it might be a bit easier. Seeing his hand now we can see that betting worked out really well.

The discussion of balance might come up when we suggest checking flop with this hand, but I think checking here keeps us balanced to a certain degree as against this opponent we would most likely check 99-KK, bet AT+ and air, which seems to be a reasonably balanced range. I think the case can be made to bet 99-KK and A6s for value here against certain opponents but vs this one, a 23/18, I'd say checking works best.

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